Allies Voice: Have you been stimulated?
What is all this chatter about a stimulated C-Peptide test? Nowadays there's more buzz than ever - and it's not a moment too soon!
In the 1970s, a method of insulin purification called High Performance Liquid Chromatography (HPLC) extracted the C chain from the A and B chains of proinsulin. This process resulted in insulin of nearly 100% purity. Shortly after the use of HPLC purification became popular in insulin manufacturing - a test to measure beta cell function was introduced . This test, called the stimulated C-peptide test, measured the C-chain of insulin, also known as C-peptide.
The stimulated C-Peptide test does not yet appear to be a routine part of standard of care in the diagnosis of diabetes. The stimulated C-Peptide test will help in establishing an appropriate protocol of treatment for Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes. Insulin injections (biosynthetic human insulin) may stimulate more of the antibodies and T-cells exacerbating beta cell destruction.
If your doctor hasn't ordered a stimulated C-peptide test - maybe it's time? If he attempts to explain to you it's insignificant and doesn't mean much --- ask him what happened in the case of Halle Berry? Perhaps a stimulated C-peptide test could've saved Catwoman 10 years of unnecessary roughness we all know as diabetes. Maybe a stimulated C-peptide test could tell us a lot more than doctors hunch about our beta cell health. Wouldn't you like to know?
- Effects of new insulins on insulin and C-peptide antibodies, insulin dose, and diabetic control
- Diabetes Health Magazine published a superb article breaking down the ins-and-outs of C-peptide
- Amy Tenderich of Diabetes Mine reported the ongoings of the C-peptide crusade, including opinions from leading researchers
- Cure "Type 1" Diabetes Initiative/Diabetes C-Peptide Test Information Act urging the U.S. Congress and All State Legislatures to consider the importance of the stimulated C-peptide test in ALL diabetes diagnosis
- Join me on TuDiabetes.com - A Community for People Touched by Diabetes
Your website is beutiful and very interesting.
I interested in emotion and diabetes topics.
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> 1107 www.tinyurl.com/399utj [Halle Berry witnessed]
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Halle Berry has Type 1b diabetes...the need for insulin comes and goes. If this is what she has, there is nothing she did that caused her diabetes to "improve". It is the natural course of the disease. She will likely go on to need insulin again sometime in the future.
In fact, as I recall, Halle Berry has been on a strict diet and exercise program for years, and only recently did she come out and say she is off insulin. As she has looked at about the same weight this whole time, I highly doubt much changed in her lifestyle.
I do agree with Allie's point that all Type 1's and "Type 1's" should have a c-peptide test. While I am sure I have autoimmune Type 1, there may be people out there with MODY or Type 1b or even a thin Type 2 who are wrongly classified as autoimmune Type 1 diabetics. Also, any autoimmune Type 1's with beta cell retention should be on a plan to preserve that, such as Omega 3 and vitamin D supplements, as well as a gluten and casein free diet in addition to (possibly) immunotherapy.
Furthermore, a c-peptide test on some thin "Type 2's" may determine them to be slow onset Type 1's!
Regardless, I agree with Allie that c-peptide is going to be the "next big thing" in Type 1 diabetes care.
And it's about time!
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Type 1b Diabetic (?) A Million Reasons, Or More [1,050,000+], for second opinions...
Joy says: "...we have almost 21 million people with diabetes but only about 15,000 CDEs..."
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/12/13/5582.html
ADA says...
Type 1 ... "This form of diabetes, which accounts for only 5–10% of those with diabetes"
Type 2 ... "This form of diabetes, which accounts for ~90–95% of those with diabetes"
> 0107 www.tinyurl.com/ywnrs6 [diabetescare@diabetes.org]
5% of 21 million is approximately 21,000,000 x 5/100 = 1,050,000 ie 1 million & 50 thousand People [or more(?)] potentially diagnosed type 1a rather than type 1b or type 2 (?) even though the stimulated C-peptide test has been available since 1972?
> 0107 http://tinyurl.com/2arzxs [DiabetesCaseStudy.com]
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/02/5548.html
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-peptide
How reliable is the distinction between a type 2 and type 1b ?
Were/are You really a type 1b Diabetic ?
http://www.diabeteshealth.com/read/2008/01/03/5612.html#comments
Which Diabetics have stimulated C-peptide tests yearly, quarterly or monthly ?
> 0108 www.tinyurl.com/yo8d5g [LoveDiabetes.com]
When does the '5% [million+ Diabetic] variable' counting occur (?) ... Who knows ?
Halle Berry CURED from type 1a or type 1b to type 2 diabetes ... Who cares ?
> www.HealSelf.org/Diabetes.html [Type 1 & 2 Cured]
> 0108 www.tinyurl.com/399utj [WDDTY.com]
…Warm thanks & Adrenalin Love
Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian (C) 21:23hrs @ THU.10.JAN.2008 c/o www.LoveDiabetes.com
"The Gracey HYPOthesis" for the CAUSE & CURE of diabetes... www.tinyurl.com/32z33w
CURE auto-immunity... www.tinyurl.com/3cw8eu
CURE diabetes... www.tinyurl.com/2guhfd
CURED diabetes [relative-HYPOglycemia]... www.tinyurl.com/yno298
Eat not less but less OFTEN... www.tinyurl.com/299t3f
Eating less OFTEN is profoundly more healthy than eating less... www.tinyurl.com/ys63gk
Eating too OFTEN sustains & CAUSES all diabetes... www.tinyurl.com/2j7p3t
Diabetes is not a disease ... www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99 ... diabetes is the CURE...
... for relative-HYPOglycemia ... www.tinyurl.com/36qxn3
Eating-less-OFTEN-Fasting-more-OFTEN-Loving-more-OFTEN...
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html#comments
AdrenaLINE ... www.tinyurl.com/29kvda ... "I-Fast-23hours-45minutes-EveryDay-OrMore"
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"Halle Berry cured from diabetes, Type 1 or Type 2-Who cares?".
I CARE. I have proven autoiummune Type 1 diabetes. I am never going to be cured by some quack's ideas. Type 1 diabetes (autoimmune) is not the same as Type 1b, MODY, or Type 2 diabetes. A cure for them is not going to help ME. And I want a cure.
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Hurray! Lets all get C-peptide tests!!!
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Posted by bird54 on 31 December 2007
DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html
'...Hi Nick,
You stated, "For some 30 years Dr Jan Kwasniewski has been successfully treating type 1 Diabetics, without insulin, with a DDP (diabetes dietary protocol) called the "Optimal Diet". "...Type 1 diabetes can almost always be cured. You must reduce the quantity of carbohydrates consumed to 50±15 grams per day. Because 100 grams of protein can produce about 56 grams of carbohydrates. Therefore, it is necessary to consume protein of the highest biological value which is contained in egg yolks, livers and kidneys."
Then you said, 'WHY CHOOSE A DDP TO MINIMIZE INFLAMMATION WHEN SOME LOW CARB DIETS CAUSE WEIGHT LOSS BY INFLAMMATION?'
Can you explain what you mean by your last statement, "...some low carb diets cause weight loss by inflammation."?
I thought low carb diets "reduced" inflammation. Low carb diets reduce insulin production/requirements diabetics. Fasting also reduces insulin levels.
I totally agree with you on intermittent fasting, but I am confused about your statement on inflammation and low carb diets.
By the way, you absolutely have to write a book. I just read Good Calories Bad Calories by Gary Taubes. He is a journalist, not a scientist, and all he does is quote other people--so none of his ideas are his own--yet his book is fantastic!...'
Hi bird54 & AnyOne else,
Am most grateful and for your noticing & accurately quoting that carefully worded question.
To step from Dr Jan Kwasniewski's apparent therapy whereby "Type 1 diabetes can almost always be cured" to a subtly more positivising position that "Type 1 diabetes can always be cured" apparently needs more focus upon the CAUSE of type 1b / 2 / 1a diabetes and what avoidable common-denominator(s) may be involved in those 3 types of 'diabetes'.
Inflammation / auto-immunity can be associated with eating too OFTEN 'high protein'.
Please advise the date of and results from your 3 most recent 'auto-antibody' and/or 'stimulated C-peptide' tests and please explain the criteria your diagnosing Physician adopted to distinguish your 'being' type 1b / 2 / 1a [& its sub-types] ?
Please note that the 'cause & effect' search terms: auto-immunity / fasting / inflammation are all apparently absent from the index of Gary Taubes' book.
Please study my SUN.06.JAN.2008 post @ DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html and feedback for further help in relation to the conscious positivising healing of auto-immunity [aka sub-conscious negativising 'immunity-of-the-self'] and/or inflammation associated with type 1b / 'celiac disease' / type 2 / type 1a.
Regular 'auto-antibody' and/or 'stimulated C-peptide' tests are important to evidence the ongoing DIRECTION of the CURE of any alleged Diabetic's 'disease'.
…Warm thanks & Adrenalin Love
Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian (C) 13:50hrs @ FRI.11.JAN.2008 c/o www.LoveDiabetes.com & www.tinyurl.com/399utj
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Apologies ... the click-to-link for the abovementioned SUN.06.JAN.2008 post should read ...
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html#comments
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Posted by bird54 on 12 January 2008
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html#comment
"...Hi Nick and Anyone Else,
I bought Joel Fuhrman's book, "Fasting and Eating for Health." ... I agree with Fuhrman about fasting ... He quotes the study where medical students were fed egg yokes, cream, and butter, which resulted in hyperglycemia and insulin resistance. Nick, you state that insulin resistance is beneficial, so therefore, it is beneficial to eat fat and become insulin resistant. If you don't eat carbohydrates, then you are burning fat for energy, so you don't need much insulin. Dr. Bernstein's "Diabetes Solution" is a low carb, sufficient fat and protein diet, not a vegetarian diet. The Atkin's diet is also a meat and fat diet. Gary Taubes, "Good Calories, Bad Calories" explains how in the 1920's V. Stefansson lived with the Inuit for five years eating only fat and meat. He did not develop any deficiency diseases, and contrary to what others said, he stated that the Inuits cooked their meat and boiled their fish. The Optimal Diet, used in Poland, recommends high quality protein like eggs and organ meats ... It confuses me when I read one hypothesis based on research, and then read the exact opposite view based on conflicting research. Then I wonder, what am I supposed to eat, nothing at all?! Okay, I'll do that then. I'll fast. I know that is beneficial. But then when I do eat, what am I supposed to eat? ..."
Hi bird54 & AnyOne else,
Only Dr Bernarr Zovluck documents a CURE for healing type 1B / 2 / 1A 'insulin dependent' diabetes...
"...Joan B., age 29, in 1985, had Type 1, Juvenile Diabetes, for 17 years. She took insulin daily. She was always thin, no matter how she ate, had increased urination, blurred vision, vaginal itching, nocturnal enuresis, was very thirsty and weak. After she was under our care, she never took insulin again, her vision became normal, never had vaginal itching, never had increased urination nor nocturnal enuresis again, exercised daily with intensity, gained muscular bodyweight and looked beautiful. We have successfully helped heal many cases of Diabetes 1, i.e., Insulin Dependent Diabetes. To our knowledge, we are the only health practitioners in the world, to have helped heal Diabetes 1..."
> www.HealSelf.org/Diabetes.html [Type 1 & 2 Cured]
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When 'water fasting' the body's cells are provided with optimum nutrition via a very high fat 'eating' diet of self-digestion of white adipose tissue [WAT] stores, increasing glucose insulin resistance [GIR] and becoming healthier every day. Any daily [or so] 'external-nutrition' with the objective of SUSTAINABLY gaining / maintaining healthy tissue [including beta-cells] should consciously support [and maximize to the greatest reasonable degree] the benefit of daily 'water fasting' [& daily self-digestion of WAT] every day better in every way... www.tinyurl.com/399utj
bird54 ... You did a fantastically logical analysis of the proposed HYPOthesis for the CAUSE & CURE of diabetes... www.tinyurl.com/32z33w
Please analyze & summarize [in respect of your 2 above quoted questions] your understanding the following 2 parts of "The Gracey HYPOthesis" explanation...
CURE auto-immunity... www.tinyurl.com/3cw8eu
CURE diabetes... www.tinyurl.com/2guhfd
…Warm thanks & Adrenalin Love
Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian (C) 13:23hrs @ SUN.13.JAN.2008 c/o LoveDiabetes.com
"I-Fast-23hours-45minutes-EveryDay-OrMore"
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To Mr. Gracey,
I am only going to talk about autoimmune Type 1 diabetes here. Any other form of diabetes is an entirely different disease based on current science. Type 2 and Type 1b diabetes are NOT autoimmune diseases.
First off, I want to say that I agree with the concept that a raw food diet and anti-inflammatories likely will help with autoimmunity. But only because it reduces exposure to "allergenic triggering foods" and helps with the leaky gut. It is not a proven cure of anything, and should not be advertised as such. It is a treatment tool to improve current treatment.
Inflammation is NOT the original cause of autoimmunity. The LEAKY GUT is. Inflammation occurs in autoimmune diabetes as a result of the leaky gut letting in triggers of the disease. These triggers impair the nervous system (using the Sick Kids breakthrough)and lay the groundwork for further inflammation and autoimmunity to develop. Inflammation is a result and *secondary* cause of autoimmunity, not the ORIGINAL cause.
You have to attack the original cause of the disease to "cure" it.
Also, there is no point in "stealing" this hypothesis, there is hundreds of published proven data on the "leaky gut" and intestinal permeability in autoimmune diseases. Search Pub Med. You may also find many other articles that answer your questions there.
Now, I ask you this...if you are so sure that Type 1 autoimmune diabetes can be "cured" by fasting and water (you'd have to cure me in less than 5 hours or I'll be in a coma without insulin), then I'll pay you to tell me how.
If you can cure me, I will meet with you and pay you $100,000.
So how do I stop this constant autoimmunity? "Regenerating" my beta cells (if possible) is useless without stopping the immunity against them. That will create even MORE of an attack.
Please explain to me, using your theory, why I am not "cured" already:
My diagnosis: Autoimmune Endocrine Polyglandular Failure Syndrome Type 3
-Autoimmune Type 1 diabetes diagnosed at age 2 (positive ICA, IA, and 0.1 (zero) C-peptide).
-HLA type commonly found in Type 1 diabetic and Celiac Disease patients.
-Strong family history of autoimmune polyglandular failure and associated autoimmune diseases (MS, RA, PA, Schizophrenia-linked with Celiac).
-Hashimoto's Thyroiditis since age 10. TSH swings wildly between 1 and 30. TPO antibodies above 1100.
-Celaic Diseaese diagnosed within 3 years. ttG and EMA levels off the charts positive (over 100), positive biopsy.
-Recent multiple allergies and recurrance of severe asmthma within the past 1.5. years, including anaphylaxis to wheat and milk.
My immune disorders are getting WORSE, not better.
People with both autoimmune diseases and allergies are found to have a defect involving IL-10.
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Here is what I *currently* do:
-Strict gluten and milk free diet. I am IgE allergic to all foods I was tested for (plus multiple inhalent allegies). I limit soy and beans. I am supposed to avoid some nuts, mushrooms, and beef due to my mould allergies and milk anaphylaxis.
-I am very thin and active. I have fasted for 4-5 days, while continuing to wear my insulin pump of course to avoid death. Of course my insulin needs are lower fasting, but that is a normal reaction in anyone, it didn't cure me of diabetes obviously. I have fasted likely longer and more often than you.
-I take anti-inflammatories and antioxidants like Omega 3-6-9 EFA, Folic Acid, Vitamin D and C.
-I practice yoga for stress reduction.
-I eat organic and natural foods (apples, veggies) most of the time.
-I live in a very small city with little pollution, and I avoid chemicals as much as possible.
-Since I am sure you will bring up "spirituality" and "purity" in your bizare claims, I am a Catholic who prays and attends church regularily. And yes, I was a virgin up until I got married...only 3 weeks ago! I am also a positive thinker. This has done nothing, ironically.
-I do not smoke or take any kind of drugs, aside from hormone replacement for my autoimmune diseases and drugs needed for severe (potentially fatal) allergic reactions.
I am sicker than I have ever been. I have life-threatneing allergies. I get a new autoimmune disease every few years it seems. And I'm only in my 20's.
So how to I "turn off" my genes and defective immune system?
If you can cure me with diet, fasting, and water as you claim, I will pay you $100,000.
Note that fasting (cutting out all allergens) until death occurs is not a cure.
Show me results, and I'll show you the money.
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For the people on this forum who haven't figured it out yet...the people Mr.Gracey keeps referring to are quack SCAM artists who will sell you anything and claim it will cure you of everything.
Yawn...yeah right! Now they're claiming water as a cure...whatever happend to those magnet bracelets?
Here's one of Mr.Gracey's quoted doctors involved in a mail fruad scam back in the day trying to sell "Vitamin B15" a "cure all".
http://www.usps.com/judicial/1980deci/7-76.htm
Here's some more people debating yet another of Mr. Gracey's sources:
http://www.rawtimes.com/rawlifedigest/v02.n1107
This is from a suposed *supporter* of these doctors, but note that one of these "doctors" was in horrible shape due to lack of medical care and died at a young age 70. Can you imagine if he had an immediately life threatening health condition? He would have died at age 30!
http://chetday.com/v4n7.pdf
God gave us modern medicine for a reason. To use it. That doesn't mean neglect your health, it means save your life. Life is too short as it is. If we didn't have modern medicine, I would have died at age 2, for better or for worse.
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Note: I plan on trying medical grade probiotics again (they made me very ill), and trying a raw food diet.
I also eat lots of fish, so I am not sure how to work this into my meal plan. Raw fish (food poisoning) can kill a Type 1 diabetic. I am also not ready to cut out such a healthy food. Ideas?
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Intensive insulin therapy (which usually results in good control or better control) itself can reduce oxidative stress in the body, leading to fewer diabetes complications, as proven in other studies.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=17969818
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Posted by bird54 on 13 January 2008
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2008/01/13/5617.html#comments
"... Hi Dr. Rosedale, Great article! I have read your book and agree that your diet works for controlling and/or reversing diabetes. In your article, you mention that calorie restricted diets increase longevity. I would like to know what you think about the effects of intermittent fasting on health and longevity. One study showed that intermittent fasting was even more beneficial than calorie restriction. If I modified your diet so that I was eating only once a day, or eating on alternate days, do you think it would be even more beneficial? ..."
Hi bird54 & AnyOne else,
In relation to 'one meal every day, or so', and your question "...do you think it would be even more beneficial?..."
Surely the objective of a diet designed "...for controlling and/or reversing diabetes..." should also have clear objectives for preventing/controlling/reversing 'type 3 & 1A diabetes'.
> 0205 www.tinyurl.com/2e48a7 [Suzanne_DeLaMonte_MD@Brown.edu]
> 0108 www.HealSelf.org/Alzheimer's%20Disease.html [Dr Bernarr Zovluck]
How quickly can You obtain a continuous glucose monitor [CGM]?
According to "The Gracey HYPOthesis" the CAUSE of type 1B / 2 / 1A / 3 diabetes is ... relative-HYPOglycemia.
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/399utj
'Relative-HYPOglycemia As A Cause Of Neuropsychiatric Illness' @ Journal Of The National Medical Association @ Harry M Salzer MD @ January 1966 @ Vol 58 @ Number 1 @ Table 1 @ Figure 2.
> 0367 www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99 [c/o Dr Harry M Salzer]
The breakthrough technology offered by a CGM appears to be its ability to optimally monitor [depending upon the model] the avoidance of the probable main avoidable CAUSE of type 1B / 2 / 1A / 3 diabetes every day better in every way.
So with the benefit of "The Gracey HYPOthesis" and a CGM ... foods selected for their nutritional and HYPOallergenic qualities can also be monitored for their ability to prevent relative-HYPOglycemia and help reverse 'diabetes'.
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By intelligently actioning conscious procedures to minimize & avoid multiple factors which contribute to the CAUSE of an effect ... it is reasonable to expect that that effect can be controlled and, in due course, 'healed' as desired.
> www.HealSelf.org/Diabetes.html [Type 1 & 2 Cured]
ADA says...
"...The severity of the metabolic abnormality can progress, regress, or stay the same..."
> 0107 www.tinyurl.com/ywnrs6 [Why lack of mention of Dr Suzanne de la Monte's work ... www.tinyurl.com/98bf2 ?].
As regards Dr Rosedale's comment: "Thanks to insulin, all that excess sugar that hasn't been burned off is now socked away as fat!"
> www.tinyurl.com/24nktv ... All jokes are negative.
There is ZERO role for jokes in proper scientific research.
The 'winking Joker' from the 'Batman comics' illustrates the practice of negative thinking NOT positive thinking.
Insulin, c/o positivising, can have many positive roles, especially, when its function in brain tissue is increased by eating less OFTEN.
>0400 tinyurl.com/2j7p3t [dfadool@neuro.fsu.edu]
>1007 tinyurl.com/3aypqg [mristow@mristow.org]
Few People are willing to change.
…Warm thanks & Adrenalin Love
Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian (C) 13:23hrs @ MON.14.JAN.2008 c/o LoveDiabetes.com
AdrenaLINE ... www.tinyurl.com/29kvda ... "I-Fast-23hours-45minutes-EveryDay-OrMore"
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Mr. Gracey,
You are aware that your "cure" plan will kill any Type 1 diabetic that tries it, right?
They run the risk of severe low blood sugar/seizures/death if not on the pump while fasting, or coma and death (DKA) if no insulin is given while fasting.
Type 1 diabetics (autoimmune) make NO insulin period. The reason why they cannot drink excess water to pee out the excess glucose is that this simply does not work in diabetes.
In fact, by the time glucose levels are high enough to signal the kidneys to begin dumping, they are at dangerously and damagingly high levels (above 10 mmol/).
Furthermore, the Type 1 diabetic is receiving absolutely NO insulin, so their cells begin to starve for glucose. Their cells are getting ZERO energy, and the kidneys are trying to keep up and flush the glucose building up in the blood. Useless. As you know, the starved cells (which are not helped, as the glucose levels in the blood reach toxic levels, such as 35 mmol/l while fasting) begin to turn to adipose cells for energy, which creates toxic byproducts called ketones. Coma and death then occurs, along with severe dehydration and electrolyte imbalance.
Here are some other quacks who have been charged for killing kids with Type 1 diabetes. Know that blood is on your hands, and you will go to jail if anyone takes your advice:
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-5488778_ITM
Here's more cases of crazy quacks trying to heal kids with prayer (Note that someone with established (not new onset) Type 1 diabetes will go into a coma without insulin in HOURS. Painful death soon follows).
http://www.rickross.com/reference/cscience/cscience6.html
http://www.theness.com/articles.asp?id=29
Here's more crackpots who have KILLED children and let them suffer in their last moments from treatable diseases:
http://www.masskids.org/jcl/jcl_6appendix.html
I'm all for healthy living and alternative *complimentary* medicine, which can works wonders in putting Type 2 diabetes into remission. But let's not lose our minds and put people's lives at risk foolishly and say 100% that "eating less" can cure Type 1 diabetes. This has NEVER happened. To claim something as a "cure" when unproven with no evidence is worse than bad science, it is foolish and deadly.
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Mr. Gracey,
I don't understand your hypothesis. A Type 1 diabetic does not have have hypoglycemia after they eat (unless they inject a too large dose of insulin too soon). I test 12x per day or more, and I have yet to see a low blood sugar AFTER I eat, unless I am allergic to that food and am having a reaction (which in that case I have to go to the ER).
A Type 1 diabetic will have an increase in blood sugar, to usually abnormally high levels. Injected insulin matches food very poorly. This is not followed by a "crash", which IS typically found in Type 2 diabetics.
The only time this happens is when a low glycemic food is eaten with Humalog. This dip can be avoided by using an extended bolus on the pump or taking the injection after the meal.
So what are you suggesting for a Type 1 diabetic? Do you want them to have high or low blood glucose immediately after eating? With current technology, it's impossible to have normal postprandial glucose with no variance. They will always be HIGH, not low. If proper insulin doses are given, they will not dip too low. Reactive hypoglycemia (I believe you are using the term "relative") cannot naturally EVER occur in Type 1 diabetics, because they make absolutely no insulin.
You say: "There is ZERO role for jokes in proper scientific research."
So why are you posting laughable pseudo science articles (unproven) that claim that faith healing will cure Type 1 diabetes?! Do you know how many people have died because of these ignorant beliefs?! These people/children didn't have to die!
Allie, why are you allowing this garbage to be posted? You could be liable if anyone dies. Seriously.
P.S. Nick, your former university is looking for you to find out what you're been up to. Perhaps you'd like to enlighten them...
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Mr. Gracey,
After you finish researching and looking up the "leaky gut" on the internet, could you please respond to my questions? I assume that as a diabetes researcher, you know all about it. I want to know:
-Why your plan has not cured me.
-How do I cure myself from my autoimmune Type 1 diabetes, Celiac Disease, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, Asthma, and allergies? If it's so simple, I want to know how. And I want to be cured right now. A diet change is easy for me...I already eat very little due to my allergies. So what do I eat to cure myself?
I can't wait to meet with you in person. I am going to bring the media. They will publish your paper, and you will be famous. The first person to cure Type 1 diabetes in a human (not a mouse!).
I am waiting....
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This great article on c-peptide that clearly shows again the difference between Type 1 (autoimmune insulin deficiency) and Type 2 diabetes (insulin resistance diabetes).
C-peptide helps Type 1 diabetics, who lack both c-peptide and insulin.
C-peptide is useless for Type 2 diabetics, who are resistant to the effects of both.
http://www.islet.org/forum/messages/50084.htm
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Posted by bird54 on 13 January 2008
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2008/01/13/5617.html#comments
"... Hi Dr. Rosedale, You stated that the body will not burn fat unless the diet is low in sugar and high in good fats, otherwise the body it will use its own muscle as fuel. Do you recommend testing with ketone strips to determine if you are burning fats?..."
Posted by Nicholas Dynes Gracey on 14 January 2008
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/1994/06/01/217.html#comments
"...Blood plasma glucose rises 'diabetically' via 'release' of glucose from the liver, following exercise, in order to prevent relative-HYPOglycemia [the CAUSE of diabetes] compensating for the rate of change of the reducing glucose concentration [from its starting concentration] in the plasma which would otherwise be reducing too rapidly [to supply the brain/nerves with adequate glucose] as glucose moves into the muscles to replace the muscle-metabolized glucose.
In EFFECT type 1B / 2 / 1.5 / 1A / 2A diabetes appear substantially similar [urination of excess glucose].
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2bpym6 [P.Pozzilli@unicampus.it]
The avoidable CAUSE of type 1B / 2 / 1.5 / 1A / 2A diabetes appears substantially identical.
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/399utj ["The Gracey HYPOthesis"]
What do You think the CAUSE of type 2A / 1A diabetes is?
> 0108 www.tinyurl.com/23uz59 [George.Eisenbarth@uchsc.edu]..."
Hi bird54 & AnyOne else,
In relation to "...testing with ketone strips to determine if you are burning fats?..."
DIETARY DIABETIC PROTOCOL
Surely any diet and/or dietary Diabetic protocol [DDP] designed "...for controlling and/or reversing diabetes..." should also have clear objectives for preventing/controlling/reversing 'type 3A, 2A & 1A diabetes' ... And that probably includes stimulating healthy SUSTAINABLE ketone metabolism.
> 0503 www.tinyurl.com/ys63gk [Anson@jhu.edu]
> 0205 www.tinyurl.com/2e48a7 [Suzanne_DeLaMonte_MD@Brown.edu]
> 0108 www.HealSelf.org/Alzheimer's%20Disease.html [Dr Bernarr Zovluck]
DDP FOR HELPING HEAL ALL DIABETES
In respect of "positivising" rather than 'divisive selfish negativising' [EG 'please focus on just T1DM'] ... Who cares about ALL types of diabetes IE all Diabetics and a 'unified theory' for a dietary Diabetic protocol [DDP] to help CURE all Diabetics?
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2008/01/15/5619.html#comments
> www.HealSelf.org/Diabetes.html [Type 1 & 2 Cured]
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/3cw8eu ["The Gracey HYPOthesis"]
83 mmol/L CAN BE NEGATIVE
Actor-comedian Jim Turner was 17 years old when he was diagnosed with type 1 in 1970. He tells Scott King about the "death row meal" of ice cream, cake and pie he consumed the day before he began injecting insulin - a meal that shot his blood sugar level to 1,500 mg/dl (83 mmol/L).
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/tv/live.html
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19 mmol/L CAN BE POSITIVE
Dr David Zangen's research suggests that, in the short term [> 25hours], transient supernormal glycemia [TSG] with an upper 'baseline' plasma glucose concentration level of 350 mg/dL (19 mmol/L) is physiologically relatively safe.
> 0407 www.tinyurl.com/29kvda [ZangenD@hadassah.org.il]
HEALTHY LIVER LESS ALLERGY ?
According to the Gracey HYPOthesis: "...Eating also causes inflammation [due to various food intolerances associated with an inefficient liver function]..." and the CAUSE of type 1B / 2 / 1.5 / 1A / 2A / 3A diabetes is ... eating too OFTEN and consequent ... "relative-HYPOglycemia".
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/399utj ["The Gracey HYPOthesis"]
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_(food)#Food_allergy [egg yolk HYPOallergenic relative to egg 'white' protein]
DR HARRY SALZER SHOWS THE WAY
'Relative-HYPOglycemia As A Cause Of Neuropsychiatric Illness' @ Journal Of The National Medical Association @ Harry M Salzer MD @ January 1966 @ Vol 58 @ Number 1 @ Table 1 @ Figure 2.
> 0367 www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99 [c/o Dr Harry M Salzer]
NEURO-PSYCHIATRIC DIABETES ?
It appears that all Diabetics who experience [consciously or otherwise] relative-HYPOglycemia ... are really Diabetics with a "Neuropsychiatric Illness".
> 1206 www.tinyurl.com/2odurt [HMDosch@sickkids.ca]
GLUCOSE STARVED BRAIN
(A) How many times should / have You had the advice of a Psychiatrist within the past 12 months?
EVIDENCE FOR A CHANGE ?
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TECHNOLOGICAL HELP
(C) How QUICKLY can You obtain a continuous glucose monitor [CGM] and a digital pH meter?
SEE THE CAUSE ?
The breakthrough technology offered by a CGM appears to be its ability to optimally monitor [depending upon the model] the avoidance of the probable main avoidable CAUSE of type 1B / 2 / 1A / 2A / 3A diabetes every day better in every way.
NOW
So with the benefit of "The Gracey HYPOthesis", a CGM, a digital pH meter and ketone testing ... foods selected for their nutritional, pH, ketogenic and HYPOallergenic qualities can also be monitored for their ability to stimulate ketosis and help reverse 'diabetes' by consciously preventing relative-HYPOglycemia & ketoacidosis.
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2guhfd ["The Gracey HYPOthesis"]
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolic_acidosis
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketoacidosis
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetic_ketoacidosis
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LESS CAUSE LESS EFFECT ?
By intelligently actioning conscious procedures to minimize & avoid multiple factors which contribute to the CAUSE of an effect ... it is reasonable to expect that that effect can be controlled and, in due course, 'healed' as desired.
> www.HealSelf.org/Diabetes.html [Type 1 & 2 Cured]
ADA says...
"...The severity of the metabolic abnormality can progress, regress, or stay the same..."
> 0107 www.tinyurl.com/ywnrs6 [Why lack of mention of Dr Suzanne de la Monte's work ... www.tinyurl.com/98bf2 ?].
LICENSED CHOICE TO WEAN ?
Following Halle Berry's type 1 to type 2 Diabetic 'upgrade', to being GM insulin-free, the ADA advice suggests, quite reasonably, that type 1 Diabetics should only wean off GM insulin if consulting their licensed medical Practitioner/s first.
EAT LESS OFTEN
Eating less OFTEN appears to be the key to gradually weaning off GM insulin and increasing the production of natural insulin in brain tissue. And this may be vital to helping reverse & overcome the neuro-psychiatric symptoms so evident in the negativising behavior of so many Diabetics.
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2008/01/11/5610.html
> 0400 www.tinyurl.com/2j7p3t [DFadool@neuro.fsu.edu]
> 1007 www.tinyurl.com/3aypqg [MRistow@mristow.org]
> 1206 www.tinyurl.com/y7znor [HMDosch@sickkids.ca]
29 - 17 = 12 YEAR CHILD TYPE 1A CURED ?
Dr Bernarr Zovluck documents a CURE for healing type 1B / 2A / 1A 'insulin dependent' diabetes...
"...Joan B., age 29, in 1985, had Type 1, Juvenile Diabetes, for 17 years. She took insulin daily. She was always thin, no matter how she ate, had increased urination, blurred vision, vaginal itching, nocturnal enuresis, was very thirsty and weak. After she was under our care, she never took insulin again, her vision became normal, never had vaginal itching, never had increased urination nor nocturnal enuresis again, exercised daily with intensity, gained muscular bodyweight and looked beautiful. We have successfully helped heal many cases of Diabetes 1, i.e., Insulin Dependent Diabetes. To our knowledge, we are the only health practitioners in the world, to have helped heal Diabetes 1..."
> 0108 www.tinyurl.com/yno298 [DrBernarr@aol.com]
LOVING / HATEFUL ?
Dr Bernarr's website states: "...A single conversation with a wise man is better than ten years of study. - Chinese Proverb. Have Faith in God and Dr. Bernarr. You are beautiful. We love you!..."
The 'quantum physics' of HOW love/prayer works is other than clear but there is Peer reviewed documentation to prove that love/prayer really does work ... EG in relation to helping with pregnancy.
> 0507 www.tinyurl.com/ywejxy
OPEN MINDED
Did Dr Bernarr and/or prayer help Halle Berry with her diabetes / pregnancy challenges ... c/o 'guidance by' Luke 10:21?
> 0108 www.tinyurl.com/2atwbf ["...You have hidden these things..."]
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CHANGE ?
Few People are willing to change but Halle Berry CHANGED from a type 1A [insulin dependent] or type 1B [insulin dependent] Diabetic into type 2 [insulin independent] Diabetic ... Who really knows if Halle Berry previously had type 1A or type 1B diabetes? But she apparently really HAS "managed to wean" Herself off GM insulin.
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/02/5548.html
> 0108 www.tinyurl.com/399utj [Ask Halle Berry?]
…Warm thanks & Adrenalin Love
Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian (C) 21:23hrs @ TUE.15.JAN.2008 c/o www.LoveDiabetes.com
"The Gracey HYPOthesis" for the CAUSE & CURE of diabetes... www.tinyurl.com/32z33w
CURE auto-immunity... www.tinyurl.com/3cw8eu
CURE diabetes... www.tinyurl.com/2guhfd
CURED diabetes [relative-HYPOglycemia]... www.tinyurl.com/yno298
Eat not less but less OFTEN... www.tinyurl.com/299t3f
Eating less OFTEN is profoundly more healthy than eating less... www.tinyurl.com/ys63gk
Eating too OFTEN sustains & CAUSES all diabetes... www.tinyurl.com/2j7p3t
Diabetes is not a disease ... www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99 ... diabetes is the CURE...
... for relative-HYPOglycemia ... www.tinyurl.com/36qxn3
Eating-less-OFTEN-Fasting-more-OFTEN-Loving-more-OFTEN...
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html#comments
AdrenaLINE ... www.tinyurl.com/29kvda ... "I-Fast-23hours-45minutes-EveryDay-OrMore"
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Mr. Gracey,
I do not believe you have any experience in diabetes research. I think you have a grade 12 education at best. You are very dense, as in stupid. You just don't understand what is clearly explained to you, and you continue to deny reality.
""...Blood plasma glucose rises 'diabetically' via 'release' of glucose from the liver, following exercise, in order to prevent relative-HYPOglycemia [the CAUSE of diabetes] compensating for the rate of change of the reducing glucose concentration [from its starting concentration] in the plasma which would otherwise be reducing too rapidly [to supply the brain/nerves with adequate glucose] as glucose moves into the muscles to replace the muscle-metabolized glucose."
This does NOT happen in Type 1 diabetes. You are confused again. You are describing Type 2 diabetes.
"In EFFECT type 1B / 2 / 1.5 / 1A / 2A diabetes appear substantially similar [urination of excess glucose].
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2bpym6 [P.Pozzilli@unicampus.it]"
The point is, these diseases are NOT the SAME. They do not have the same pathology, thus they will not have the same cure. The cure for COPD, Cystic Fibrosis, and Asthma (lung diseases) will not be the same even though they share symptoms. Remember, Type 1a diabetes is not really "diabetes". It is autoimmune insulin deficiency. Type 1b seems to be either genetic or due to a virus (but not autoimmune).
"The avoidable CAUSE of type 1B / 2 / 1.5 / 1A / 2A diabetes appears substantially identical.
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/399utj ["The Gracey HYPOthesis"]"
There is NO proof that any of these diseases share GENETIC overlap, nor that your "unifying" hypothesis is true. In fact, your hypothesis ONLY would work for TYPE 2 diabetes. In fact, this has ALREADY been proposed. It is called "thrifty genes", and it evolved to protect people from low blood sugar and low body weight in times of hard labour and famine. What you are saying as a possible cause for *Type 2 diabetes* (or any insulin resistance diabetes) only is nothing new.
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Mr. Gracey,
"What do You think the CAUSE of type 2A / 1A diabetes is?
> 0108 www.tinyurl.com/23uz59 [George.Eisenbarth@uchsc.edu]..."
Type 2a? Type 2 diabetes is not autoimmune. Do you STILL not understand the difference?! The ANTIGEN (trigger) for Type 1 is thought to be insulin itself. This is because the trigger for Type 1 is thought to use "molecular mimicry" as explained before. It may be a virus or food protein that looks simiilar to insulin and/or beta cells. Cow's milk and yeast are 2 possibilities. The antigen in ALL autoimmune diseases is the target organ or target hormome, and Type 1 diabetes is no exception. This is very basic, this is known by any Type 1 diabetes researcher. I suggest you read more on the internet from your armchair. In MS, the antigen is CNS tissue.
"Surely any diet and/or dietary Diabetic protocol [DDP] designed "...for controlling and/or reversing diabetes..." should also have clear objectives for preventing/controlling/reversing 'type 3A, 2A & 1A diabetes' ... And that probably includes stimulating healthy SUSTAINABLE ketone metabolism.
> 0503 www.tinyurl.com/ys63gk [Anson@jhu.edu]
> 0205 www.tinyurl.com/2e48a7 [Suzanne_DeLaMonte_MD@Brown.edu]
> 0108 www.HealSelf.org/Alzheimer's%20Disease.html [Dr Bernarr Zovluck"
You are confusing the two types of diabetes again. You are referring to "starvation ketosis", which is helpful (no one knows if it's healthy long term) for weight loss in Type 2 diabetics. This is different from the fatal diabetic ketoacidosis in Type 1 diabetes from a relative lack of insulin.
"http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17991137?ordinalpos=4&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum"
You do not understand what this article is about. It is about Type 1 kids who become obese and ALSO develop ANOTHER form of diabetes in addition, called Type 2 diabetes (insulin resistance). Also, some Type 2's develop autoimmunity if they also have Type 1 in their family. Having BOTH diseases does not make them the same. You can have Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes at the same time. It is called "double diabetes", and what the article describes. It generally refers to Type 1's who become overweight.
"In respect of "positivising" rather than 'divisive selfish negativising' [EG 'please focus on just T1DM'] ... Who cares about ALL types of diabetes IE all Diabetics and a 'unified theory' for a dietary Diabetic protocol [DDP] to help CURE all Diabetics?
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2008/01/15/5619.html#comments
> www.HealSelf.org/Diabetes.html [Type 1 & 2 Cured]
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/3cw8eu ["The Gracey HYPOthesis"
Why would I focus on cancer if I wanted to cure diabetes? Type 2 diabetes is not an autoimmune disease. I have Type 1 diabetes not Type 2, and most of your articles refert to Type 2, not Type 1. They are different diseases. Why do you always dodge any REAL questions people ask you? Meet with me, since I am such a nice person."
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Mr. Gracey,
Type 1 diabetes has much more in common with MS, RA, Celiac Disease, etc. than it does with Type 2 diabetes. The bottom line is that someone has to care, because your theory will and does not work. DDP does not work for Type 1. No one here who has tried your experiment has been cured of autoimmune Type 1. I do not believe any websites that are not peer reviewed journals. Britney Spears tried to convince the tabloids that she was a virgin for years when she clearly wasn't.
"So with the benefit of "The Gracey HYPOthesis", a CGM, a digital pH meter and ketone testing ... foods selected for their nutritional, pH, ketogenic and HYPOallergenic qualities can also be monitored for their ability to stimulate ketosis and help reverse 'diabetes' by consciously preventing relative-HYPOglycemia & ketoacidosis.
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis"
I've been in ketosis (and DKA) many times from illness and fasting. I have never been cured. Ketosis is useless for Type 1 diabetics. This is why your "unifying" theory will never work, sorry to say.
Actor-comedian Jim Turner was 17 years old when he was diagnosed with type 1 in 1970. He tells Scott King about the "death row meal" of ice cream, cake and pie he consumed the day before he began injecting insulin - a meal that shot his blood sugar level to 1,500 mg/dl (83 mmol/L).
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/tv/live.html"
You think? Obvious 83 mmol/l can be negative...it is often fatal. The person in the article was not very smart.
"Dr David Zangen's research suggests that, in the short term [> 25hours], transient supernormal glycemia [TSG] with an upper 'baseline' plasma glucose concentration level of 350 mg/dL (19 mmol/L) is physiologically relatively safe.
> 0407 www.tinyurl.com/29kvda [ZangenD@hadassah.org.il]"
First of all, this is saying that very short term high blood sugar, which occurs often in Type 1 diabetes, is not overall harmful as long as overall control is good. Many doctors disagree and say that any blood sugar over high normal increases your risk for heart attacks and damage to the body. This is shown in studies. Regardless, what is your point? The article is not saying throw away your insulin, let your blood sugar climb, go into a coma, and die, with no ill effects. High blood sugar is toxic to beta cells, even if YOU don't believe it. Doesn't that defeat the purpose of a "cure".
"It appears that all Diabetics who experience [consciously or otherwise] relative-HYPOglycemia ... are really Diabetics with a "Neuropsychiatric Illness".
> 1206 www.tinyurl.com/2odurt [HMDosch@sickkids.ca]"
You are so funny! I love you Nick!!! A NEUROLOGICAL disease or link is not the same as a neurological psychiatric illness! But you knew that...
That's so funny...I at first thought you were trying to say that I caused my own diabetes as a baby! You are so cute! I bet you are so sexy!
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When I was suffering from undiagnosed Celiac Disease, I was severely ill. I went to a psychiatrist who said I was NOT suffering from clinical depression but rather a physical illness (which I knew was Celiac but my doctor wouldn't test me). He suggested to keep going back to my doctor to beg for the testing I needed. According to him, I do not suffer from any mental illness. Since you asked.
"Following Halle Berry's type 1 to type 2 Diabetic 'upgrade', to being GM insulin-free, the ADA advice suggests, quite reasonably, that type 1 Diabetics should only wean off GM insulin if consulting their licensed medical Practitioner/s first."
Really? Where does it ever say that? The ADA always implies Type 1 diabetics (aside from Type 1b, which is very rare) always need insulin for life...
"Eating less OFTEN appears to be the key to gradually weaning off GM insulin and increasing the production of natural insulin in brain tissue. And this may be vital to helping reverse & overcome the neuro-psychiatric symptoms so evident in the negativising behavior of so many Diabetics.
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2008/"
That is a very patronizing statement. Are YOU diabetic? We need to cure you fast! I am so worried about you! I will pray that you become more positive! There is no evidence to suggest that insulin in the brain has any effect to control blood sugar (outside the brain). For a Type 1a diabetic, there is no way to wean off insulin no matter what they eat without incurring death. A Type 1 diabetic will die even if they fast without insulin. Do also note that high blood sugars with a lack of insulin (untreated Type 1) also results in the starving of the brain as glucose cannot get into the cells.
"So with the benefit of "The Gracey HYPOthesis", a CGM, a digital pH meter and ketone testing ..."
You don't need any of these things. Just test your blood sugar after you eat. No food causes ketosis...fasting does. High blood sugar and lack of insulin will causes ketoacidosis in a Type 1 diabetic, a different and dangerous condition.
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""...Joan B., age 29, in 1985, had Type 1, Juvenile Diabetes, for 17 years. She took insulin daily. She was always thin, no matter how she ate, had increased urination, blurred vision, vaginal itching, nocturnal enuresis, was very thirsty and weak. After she was under our care, she never took insulin again, her vision became normal, never had vaginal itching, never had increased urination nor nocturnal enuresis again, exercised daily with intensity, gained muscular bodyweight and looked beautiful. We have successfully helped heal many cases of Diabetes 1, i.e., Insulin Dependent Diabetes. To our knowledge, we are the only health practitioners in the world, to have helped heal Diabetes 1..."
> 0108 www.tinyurl.com/yno298 [DrBernarr@aol.com]
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I know you like to keep using this source, but it is hearsay, not evidence. Anyone can post a snake oil cure claim and be lying. It'a good way to make money. Any real cure should be documented in a lab. Also, if he REALLY can cure Type 1 diabetes, why has he not applied for the Nobel Prize? Or offered to cure the poor diabetics who cannot afford insulin for free? That would be a very proper thing to do. Or, he could make millions curing Type 1a diabetes and donate the money to charity!
Or:
-This person had Type 1b/MODY diabetes.
-This person did not exist.
-This story is a lie and the person is back on insulin or never stopped it.
Don't believe everything you read and hear on the internet!
Could you please track down this person for me? I would like to talk to her. Thank you, you are so kind!
No one is disputing prayer...as long as it's used WITH modern medicine, not instead of. Some people have a hard time understanding this.
"Did Dr Bernarr and/or prayer help Halle Berry with her diabetes / pregnancy challenges ... c/o 'guidance by' Luke 10:21?
> 0108 www.tinyurl.com/2atwbf ["...You have hidden these things..."]
Halle Berry is a sinful women who is living in sin. I doubt God cured her. That doesn't make sense. No, I think we have already said that she has Type 1b or MODY diabetes, which can be managed with diet from time to time. This has nothing to do with anything she does, it is thought to be a genetic idiopathic disease. The need for insulin comes and goes. I would not be surprised if she'll be back on it in a few years...
HALLE BERRY did wean herself off insulin. Nor did her doctor. Or God. It is the natural progression of her genetic disease. No one can take credit but her genes. And just because she can do it, it does not mean anyone else can.
Mr. Gracey, I am so worried about you. I will pray that you get the help you need. How old are you?
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""Eating less OFTEN appears to be the key to gradually weaning off GM insulin and increasing the production of natural insulin in brain tissue. And this may be vital to helping reverse & overcome the neuro-psychiatric symptoms so evident in the negativising behavior of so many Diabetics.
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2008/"
That is a very patronizing statement. Are YOU diabetic? We need to cure you fast! I am so worried about you! I will pray that you become more positive! There is no evidence to suggest that insulin in the brain has any effect to control blood sugar (outside the brain). For a Type 1a diabetic, there is no way to wean off insulin no matter what they eat without incurring death. A Type 1 diabetic will die even if they fast without insulin. Do also note that high blood sugars with a lack of insulin (untreated Type 1) also results in the starving of the brain as glucose cannot get into the cells."
I just wanted to follow this up...if you got ANY other cells to produce high levels of insulin (neurons, liver, etc.) they would be destroyed, as the body is progammed to attack any cells that make insulin in Type 1 diabetes (like an insulin allergy). So the immune system would now attack the brain, liver, etc. Not much of a cure, is it?
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Relevant link:
http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/dteam/2008-01/d_0d_f0j.htm
(Note however that I DO believe that all Type 1 diabetics or those prone to Type 1 should be on a gluten/milk free diet)
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TRIGR study:
http://trigr.epi.usf.edu/about.html
Note that I would have a T1 prone infant on a gluten/milk free diet from birth (for life), breastfeed for as long as possible, and supplement with Omega 3 EFA and Vitamin D. I would also avoid all "unnecessary" vaccinations. These steps may help delay or *possibly* prevent T1 D in some children.
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Alba is working on a drug (a Zonulin inhibitor) that looks like it is able to close the "leaky gut" found in Type 1 diabetes and other autoimmune diseases, thus effectively blocking out the trigger(s) of these diseases, whether it be food proteins or viruses.
So far, they have had great success with AT-1001 for Celiac Disease.
http://www.albatherapeutics.com/ProductDevelopment/Pipeline/tabid/77/Default.aspx
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DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html#comments
Posted by Nicholas Dynes Gracey on 14 January 2008
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/1994/06/01/217.html#comments
"...Blood plasma glucose rises 'diabetically' via 'release' of glucose from the liver, following exercise, in order to prevent relative-HYPOglycemia [the CAUSE of diabetes] compensating for the rate of change of the reducing glucose concentration [from its starting concentration] in the plasma which would otherwise be reducing too rapidly [to supply the brain/nerves with adequate glucose] as glucose moves into the muscles to replace the muscle-metabolized glucose.
In EFFECT type 1B / 2 / 1.5 / 1A / 2A diabetes appear substantially similar [urination of excess glucose].
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2bpym6 [P.Pozzilli@unicampus.it]
The avoidable CAUSE of type 1B / 2 / 1.5 / 1A / 2A diabetes appears substantially identical.
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/399utj ["The Gracey HYPOthesis"]
What do You think the CAUSE of type 2A / 1A diabetes is?
> 0108 www.tinyurl.com/23uz59 [George.Eisenbarth@uchsc.edu]..."
Posted by bird54 on 16 January 2008
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html#comments
Hi Nick and Anyone Else,
I'm not sure I fully understood the study (Toronto Sick Kids, www.tinyurl.com/2odurt) but the conclusion said,
"...sensory nerve dysfunction may contribute to pre-diabetes initiation and progression in diabetes-prone humans." implying that diabetes is a nervous system problem. What that means...I don't know. Inflammation, autoimmunity, beta cell destruction: how are these things tied to the nervous system?
Hi bird54 & AnyOne else,
Am very grateful for your careful reading of the carefully selected references...
In relation to Dr Michael Dosch's 2006 breakthrough diabetes research "...implying that diabetes is a nervous system problem ... Inflammation, autoimmunity, beta cell destruction: how are these things tied to the nervous system?" [in your bird54 words];
An answer to your question is ... "Psycho-Neuro-Immunology" [PNI] and relative-HYPOglycemia c/o eating too OFTEN;
And: "...Collectively, our findings identify TRPV1+ sensory neurons as important elements of diabetes pathoetiology, with effects that provide rational mechanisms of the tissue selectivity of the disease, its links to beta cell physiology, stress, and insulin resistance. Our observations open new avenues for therapeutic strategies, raising the possibility that sensory nerve dysfunction may contribute to pre-diabetes initiation and progression in diabetes-prone humans." [in the words of Dr Dosch & Team].
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoneuroimmunology
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DIETARY DIABETIC PROTOCOL
Surely, especially in respect of Michael Dosch's findings, any diet and/or dietary Diabetic protocol [DDP] designed '...for controlling and/or reversing diabetes...', such as 'one meal a day, or so', should also have clear objectives for being 'Neuro-Protective' EG to assist in preventing/controlling/reversing 'type 3A, 2A & 1A diabetes' ...
And that probably includes consciously facilitating & stimulating healthy SUSTAINABLE ketone metabolism and having a genuine desire for understanding of the consequences of 'complex carbohydrates' upon that 'Neuro-Protective-Ketosis' [NPK] ... especially when a Person is making the transition from acute into chronic 'distress' [Dr Dick A. van Waardenburg's 0506 paper].
Jeffrey Burns' 0907 paper together with Debra Fadool's 0400 paper are highly suggestive as to the importance of a DDP optimized to enhance "Brain-Protective-Insulin" [BPI] ... EG eating less OFTEN.
Furthermore ... the most positivising [and effective] method of preventing inflammatory/allergenic substances, EG fungus/nuts, entering the body via the Gastro-Intestinal [GI] tract and/or inflaming the GI tract [thereby avoidably altering its permeability] is to eat [such foods] less OFTEN [pending a suitably healthy / adapted liver].
> 0907 www.tinyurl.com/24fcxz [JBurns2@kumc.edu (BPI)]
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroprotective
> 0503 www.tinyurl.com/ys63gk [Anson@jhu.edu (NPK)]
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver
> 0506 www.tinyurl.com/2sm9g6 [DvWa@paed.azm.nl (3day distress)]
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digestive_system
> 0400 www.tinyurl.com/2j7p3t [DFadool@neuro.fsu.edu (3day BPI)]
> 0205 www.tinyurl.com/2e48a7 [Suzanne_DeLaMonte_MD@Brown.edu]
> 0108 www.HealSelf.org/Alzheimer's%20Disease.html [Dr Bernarr Zovluck]
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DDP FOR HELPING HEAL ALL DIABETES
"Positivising" has a positive influence upon the nervous system of a Person choosing positivising behavior as compared with the "psycho-somatic" consequences of 'divisive selfish negativising' [EG 'please focus on just T1DM'] and the influence of that type of negativising upon the nervous system of a Person choosing negativising behavior.
As a Person increasingly chooses to make positivising choices rather than negativising choices then the influence of those positivising patterns can reasonably be expected to help heal that Person via "Psycho-Neuro-Immunology".
The more caring / loving a Person the greater the potential for healing via PNI ... So really caring about ALL types of diabetes IE all Diabetics and a 'unified theory' for a dietary Diabetic protocol [DDP] to help CURE all Diabetics is part of a healing modality.
The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine have recently made substantial steps in highlighting the benefits of consciously being offered / choosing an appropriate DDP.
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2008/01/15/5619.html#comments
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosomatic_medicine
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coue
> www.HealSelf.org/Diabetes.html [Type 1 & 2 Cured]
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/3cw8eu ["The Gracey HYPOthesis" DDP]
1,500 mg/dL CAN BE NEGATIVE
Actor-comedian Jim Turner was 17 years old when he was diagnosed with type 1 in 1970. He tells Scott King about the "death row meal" of ice cream, cake and pie he consumed the day before he began injecting insulin - a meal that shot his blood sugar level to 1,500 mg/dL (83 mmol/L).
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/tv/live.html
ALL JOKES ARE NEGATIVE
There is ZERO role for jokes in proper scientific research. A 'Clown' is usually other than positivising. The 'winking Joker' from the 'Batman comics' illustrates the practice of negativising rather positivising.
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clown
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evil_clown
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joker_%28comics%29
350 mg/dL CAN BE POSITIVE
Dr David Zangen's research suggests that, in the short term [> 25hours], transient supernormal glycemia [TSG] with an upper 'baseline' plasma glucose concentration level of 350 mg/dL (19 mmol/L) is physiologically relatively safe.
> 0407 www.tinyurl.com/29kvda [ZangenD@hadassah.org.il]
Fasting reduces erythrocyte GSH / but same FSR / proving induced insulin resistance is NOT associated with inflammation so this type of 'glucose insulin resistance' [GIR] is most desirable for type 1A / 2A / 3A Diabetics...
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/27pwj8 [saskiananette@hotmail.com]
Post-Mortem / in-vivo / beta-cells retain function even at 30 mmol/l or 540 mg/dL [pH < 7.1] so GIR + TSG should help CURE type 1A diabetes.
> 0907 www.tinyurl.com/2vrn55 [pbutler@mednet.ucla.edu]
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HEALTHY LIVER LESS ALLERGY ?
According to the Gracey HYPOthesis: "...Eating also causes inflammation [due to various food intolerances associated with an inefficient LIVER function]..." and the CAUSE of type 1B / 2 / 1.5 / 1A / 2A / 3A diabetes is ... eating too OFTEN and consequent ... "relative-HYPOglycemia".
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/399utj ["The Gracey HYPOthesis"]
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detox_diet
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fructose
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fainting
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egg_(food)#Food_allergy [egg yolk HYPOallergenic relative to egg 'white' protein]
DR HARRY SALZER SHOWS THE WAY
'Relative-HYPOglycemia As A Cause Of Neuropsychiatric Illness' @ Journal Of The National Medical Association @ Harry M Salzer MD @ January 1966 @ Vol 58 @ Number 1 @ Table 1 @ Figure 2.
> 0367 www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99 [c/o Dr Harry M Salzer]
NEURO-PSYCHIATRIC DIABETES ?
It appears that all Diabetics who experience [consciously or otherwise] relative-HYPOglycemia ... are really Diabetics with a "Neuropsychiatric Illness".
> 1206 www.tinyurl.com/2odurt [HMDosch@sickkids.ca]
> 0807 www.tinyurl.com/2w69gz [Anneli.Sepa@imk.liu.se (9/10 distressed)]
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoneuroimmunology
> 0108 www.tinyurl.com/3dze9q [Polly.Bingley@bristol.ac.uk (IRT1DM)]
GLUCOSE STARVED BRAIN
(A) How many times should / have You had the advice of a Psychiatrist since being diagnosed with 'diabetes' ?
EVIDENCE FOR A CHANGE ?
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TECHNOLOGICAL HELP
(C) How QUICKLY can You obtain a continuous glucose monitor [CGM], a juice extractor and a digital pH meter?
SEE THE CAUSE ?
The breakthrough technology offered by a CGM appears to be its ability to optimally monitor [depending upon the model] the avoidance of the probable main avoidable CAUSE of type 1B / 2 / 1A / 2A / 3A diabetes every day better in every way.
NOW
So with the benefit of "The Gracey HYPOthesis", positivising, a CGM, a digital pH meter and ketone testing ... foods positively selected for their nutritional, pH, ketogenic and HYPOallergenic qualities can also be monitored for their ability to facilitate & stimulate ketosis and help reverse 'diabetes' by consciously preventing relative-HYPOglycemia & ketoacidosis.
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2guhfd ["The Gracey HYPOthesis"]
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolic_acidosis
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketoacidosis
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetic_ketoacidosis
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LESS CAUSE LESS EFFECT ?
By intelligently actioning conscious procedures to minimize & avoid multiple factors which contribute to the CAUSE of an effect ... it is reasonable to expect that that effect can be controlled and, in due course, 'healed' as desired.
> www.HealSelf.org/Diabetes.html [Type 1 & 2 Cured]
ADA says...
"...The severity of the metabolic abnormality can progress, regress, or stay the same..."
> 0107 www.tinyurl.com/ywnrs6 [Why lack of mention of Dr Suzanne de la Monte's work ... www.tinyurl.com/98bf2 ?].
LICENSED CHOICE TO WEAN ?
"...The American Diabetes Association was also reluctant to comment directly on Berry's condition but warned that people taking insulin should not stop treatment without first consulting their doctors..."
> 1107 www.tinyurl.com/2fgsg6 [Who knows the difference between type 1B, 2 & 1A?]
Following Halle Berry's type 1 to type 2 Diabetic 'upgrade', to being GM insulin-free, the ADA advice suggests, quite reasonably, that type 1 Diabetics should only wean off GM insulin if consulting their licensed medical Practitioner/s first.
EAT LESS OFTEN
Allegations of an absolute requirement for pancreatic insulin for brain/nerve tissue function appear fabricated.
White adipose tissue [WAT] or fat can be considered a pancreatic 'insulin-Dependent tissue' [as regards glucose metabolism]. Brain/nerve tissue can can be considered a pancreatic 'insulin-INDependent tissue' because of the apparent capacity of brain/nerve tissue to metabolize glucose without any pancreatic insulin.
For most People most of the time ... because of eating too OFTEN ... brain/nerve tissue is caused to be 'substantially insulin INDependent' [with consequent compromised optimal functioning].
Eating less OFTEN appears to be the key to gradually weaning off GM insulin and increasing the production of natural insulin in brain/nerve tissue.
And this may be vital to helping reverse & overcome the neuro-psychiatric symptoms, associated with relative-HYPOglycemia, so evident in the negativising behavior of so many Diabetics as documented exceptionally well, by Deanna Glick, in the recent Diabetes Health article...
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2008/01/11/5610.html
> 1202 www.tinyurl.com/yqyps2 [Emma.Bingham@kcl.ac.uk (optimal BPI)]
> 0907 www.tinyurl.com/24fcxz [JBurns2@kumc.edu (BPI)]
> 0691 www.tinyurl.com/2ug44r [Michael V Miceli & David A Newsome (Eyes)]
> 0400 www.tinyurl.com/2j7p3t [DFadool@neuro.fsu.edu (72hr BPI)]
> 1007 www.tinyurl.com/3aypqg [MRistow@mristow.org]
> 1206 www.tinyurl.com/y7znor [HMDosch@sickkids.ca]
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29 - 17 = 12 YEAR CHILD TYPE 1A CURED ?
Dr Bernarr Zovluck documents repeated CURE for healing type 1B / 2A / 1A 'insulin dependent' diabetes...
"...Joan B., age 29, in 1985, had Type 1, Juvenile Diabetes, for 17 years. She took insulin daily. She was always thin, no matter how she ate, had increased urination, blurred vision, vaginal itching, nocturnal enuresis, was very thirsty and weak. After she was under our care, she never took insulin again, her vision became normal, never had vaginal itching, never had increased urination nor nocturnal enuresis again, exercised daily with intensity, gained muscular bodyweight and looked beautiful. We have successfully helped heal many cases of Diabetes 1, i.e., Insulin Dependent Diabetes. To our knowledge, we are the only health practitioners in the world, to have helped heal Diabetes 1. There are no other health or spiritual practitioners in the world who have ever written or lectured about their having helped heal Diabetes 1. A description of one of our Diabetes 1 cases that we helped heal, was described in David Wolfe's "Sunfood Lifestyle" first edition. David Wolfe met her and knew her before and after her Juvenile Diabetes. Her case was also described on David Karas Internet, Raw-Food@Maelstrom.StJohn.Edu message board. David Karas met her and knew her before and after her Juvenile Diabetes. She was 25 years old. She had Juvenile Diabetes for 10 years. She attended our monthly raw food potlucks-lectures-discussions, before and after her being insulin free."
> 0108 www.tinyurl.com/yno298 [DrBernarr@aol.com]
LOVING / HATEFUL ?
Dr Bernarr's website states: "...A single conversation with a wise man is better than ten years of study. - Chinese Proverb. Have Faith in God and Dr. Bernarr. You are beautiful. We love you!..."
The 'quantum physics' of HOW love/prayer works is other than clear but there is Peer reviewed documentation to prove that love/prayer really does work ... EG in relation to helping with pregnancy.
> 0507 www.tinyurl.com/ywejxy [Faith & Healing]
COMMON SENSE
"common sense" [CS] is often challenged by negativising.
animal behavior is directed by negativising OR whatever the 'weather'.
Humans have a choice ... negativising OR positivising.
AnyOne remembering They are Human chooses positivising.
This video helps explain why...
> 1107 www.tinyurl.com/2kh3yo [mind-chatter]
OPEN MINDED
Did Dr Bernarr and/or prayer and/or a positivising loving attitude help Halle Berry with her diabetes / pregnancy challenges ... c/o 'guidance by' Luke 10:21?
> 0108 www.tinyurl.com/2atwbf ["...You have hidden these things..."]
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CHANGE ?
Few People are willing to change but Halle Berry CHANGED from a type 1A [insulin dependent] or type 1B [insulin dependent] Diabetic into type 2 [insulin independent] Diabetic ... Who really knows if Halle Berry previously had type 1A or type 1B diabetes? But she apparently really HAS "managed to wean" Herself off GM insulin. Perhaps a greater understanding of "Psycho-Neuro-Immunology" [PNI], "Brain-Protective-Insulin" [BPI] & "relative-HYPOglycemia" are the keys to a potentially rapid Halle Berry like CURE for type 1A [insulin-dependent] diabetes?
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/02/5548.html
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoneuroimmunology
> 0108 www.tinyurl.com/399utj [Ask Halle Berry?]
"...love to increase self-awareness and strengthen the healing process..."
> 0703 www.tinyurl.com/yo82tj [BBarrett@fammed.wisc.edu]
…Warm thanks & Adrenalin Love
Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian (C) 12:34hrs @ WED.16.JAN.2008 c/o DiabetesHealth.com
"The Gracey HYPOthesis" for the CAUSE & CURE of diabetes... www.tinyurl.com/32z33w
CURE auto-immunity... www.tinyurl.com/3cw8eu
CURE diabetes... www.tinyurl.com/2guhfd
CURED diabetes [relative-HYPOglycemia]... www.tinyurl.com/yno298
Eat not less but less OFTEN... www.tinyurl.com/299t3f
Eating less OFTEN is profoundly more healthy than eating less... www.tinyurl.com/ys63gk
Eating too OFTEN sustains & CAUSES all diabetes... www.tinyurl.com/2j7p3t
Diabetes is not a disease ... www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99 ... diabetes is the CURE...
... for relative-HYPOglycemia ... www.tinyurl.com/36qxn3
Eating-less-OFTEN-Fasting-more-OFTEN-Loving -more-OFTEN...
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html#comments
AdrenaLINE ... www.tinyurl.com/29kvda ... "I-Fast-23hours-45minutes-EveryDay-OrMore"
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Mr. Gracey,
You fail to understand any of the articles you post, instead you simply rely on your "fantasy land " of dreams and wishes. Curing diabetes (aside from Type 2, which is EASY to put into "remission" in 90% of cases with a healthy diet, weight loss, and exericse)is not going to happen from eating once a day or drinking water. Sorry. We've all tried it with an open positive mind. I would love for diabetes to be cured. But the only disease we have ever cured is Polio. It seems the body is quite complex.
Yes, it has been well documented that there is a connection between one's immune and neurological systems. It is well known that stress can reduce immunity, which is a GOOD thing for someone with an autoimmune disease. In fact, when I am severely stresses, my cortisol levels increase, which causes my T-cell level to go down to abnormally low levels. I believe this caused my autoimmuity to decrease. As such, my insulin needs decreased and I kept having severe low blood sugars in which I needed to be hospitalized. But of course, not cured.
So in my case, being under severe stress helps reduce my autoimmunity, but is not healthy or sustainable long term.
The fact remains, you are simplifying the concept of "neuropsycho" illness. Of course the brain and body are connected, but that does NOT mean that one can "simply wish away" their disease. Believe me, we have all tried (or at least I have
Mr. Gracey, please ask Allie for my email address. I am going to meet with you. You will set me up on the EXACT diet (must be gluten and milk free), lifestyle changes (if any), and mentality that you want. I will do whatever you say, but I need a detailed list from YOU, since nothing you have posted has helped me at all. You need to give me a plan right from the source. I need you to tell me EXACTLY how to cure my autoimmunity.
You see, you have got it all wrong. It is very negative of you to assume things, Mr. Gracey. Of course I love all diabetics. In fact, I volunteer with the Diabetes Association, which helps all diabetics, primarily Type 2.
It's not that I don't want to cure all diabetics, it's that I want to cure AUTOIMMUNITY. Type 2 diabetes is not an autoimmune disease. It is a metabolic disorder generally (but not always) caused by obesity, poor diet, and lack of exercise. The way to "cure" and prevent it is not how you "cure" autoimmunity.
So Mr. Gracey, please contact me and we will a