Allies Voice: the emotional roller coaster of diabetes
Many of us feel a need to explain our blood sugar when it's not a "good" number. Sometimes we can, and sometimes we can't. Regardless of the outcome - don't let your blood sugar be the bad banana of your emotional wellbeing. A blood sugar is a blood sugar. Like a tank of gas, or a potted plant - you check it and react accordingly. A blood sugar should be treated no differently. For those of you mental masters who've perfected the art of disengaging blood sugar and emotions - please share your secret!
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betterCell please note ... Type 1, type 2, type 3 & type 4 diabetes is caused & sustained by eating too OFTEN.
ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE FOR DIABETICS...
Eating less OFTEN is profoundly more healthy than eating less...
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Posted by bird54 on 18 December 2007
... www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html
Nick said,
"Please summarize, in 5 short paragraphs, the most important issue raised in each of the 5 'diabetes breakthrough' references 2000-2007 [listed immediately above]."
bird54 says...
1. Rats that fasted for 72 hr had a reduced plasma insulin level. However, insulin levels in the brain were elevated after a 72 hour fasting period.
... 2000 http://tinyurl.com/2j7p3t">http://tinyurl.com/2j7p3t [dfadool@neuro.fsu.edu]
Hi bird54 ...
Debra Fadool's 2000 reference may well prove to be one of the MOST influential pieces of research ever done, so far, in the field of dementia / depression / Alzheimer's / 'diabetes' [aka above average plasma blood glucose].
"...Our data suggest that there is a clear differential between the levels of insulin in the plasma and that found in the... " brain/nerve tissue.
A) Why do You think that the brain may selectively increase manufacture of more brain/nerve insulin [BNI] at times when pancreatic beta-cell insulin [PBI] manufacture is simultaneously reduced ? And would an increase in peripheral tissue 'Glucose Insulin Resistance' [GIR aka inflammation] help or hinder that adaptation?
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... 2007 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irrigation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportionality_(mathematics)
C) What is the probable significance [in relation to the consequences of meal frequency] of the discovery that BNI "levels are low after a meal" as regards the increased EFFICIENCY of glucose fuel availability to brain/nerve tissue of dementia / depression / Alzheimer's [aka type 3 Diabetic] Patients / 'mood-swinging Diabetics' ... who eat less OFTEN ? And under what circumstances would an adaptive increase in brain/nerve tissue 'Glucose Insulin Resistance' [GIR aka inflammation] be expected and for what reason ?
... 2007 http://tinyurl.com/ynpp4g">http://tinyurl.com/ynpp4g [raymond.swanson@ucsf.edu]
... 2007 http://tinyurl.com/3aypqg">http://tinyurl.com/3aypqg [mristow@mristow.org]
…Warm thanks; Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian c/o www.LoveDiabetes.com @ WED.19.DEC.2007 @ 23:55hrs (C) "I-eat-less-OFTEN-I-fast-more-OFTEN".
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Well let's say this, Diabtics are the toughest people I know for sure. Dealing with pain, emotional issues related to highs or lows in blood sugar not to mention the social stigma. So with that said, just remember that Diabetics can take a licking but keep on ticking and that is what I plan on doing. You are right it is only a number and if you deal with it you will be ok. Keep up the good fight Allie, I just received a letter from England in a seasons greetings but not sure what else is going on. I will check and let you know. Fight the good fight.
Glenn
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The best comment on this was written by Deb Butterfield, author of the book "Showdown with Diabetes" in her publication Insulin-Free TIMES. Since I cannot improve upon her writing, I will include an excerpt here:
When all is said and done, the fact remains that the rate and incidence of blindness, amputation, heart attacks, and kidney failure caused by diabetes—as reported by the NIH—continue to rise. Insurance companies and health care providers ponder this failure and, with few exceptions, conclude that "educating diabetics" to adhere to an intensive regimen of injections and diets will solve the problem. This philosophy has been the cornerstone of diabetes management and consequently the "blame" for secondary complications has shifted from the disease itself to the person who has it.
Intensive therapy is a lofty theory that fails abysmally in practice. The two most significant points of failure in these programs are (1) human behavior, and (2) severe hypoglycemia. To succeed with intensive therapy a person must take three or more daily injections of insulin (or insulin pump therapy), four or more daily blood glucose tests, and follow dietary instructions. The principle underlying the belief that more diabetes education will improve a person’s ability and/or desire to practice intensive insulin therapy is grounded in the assumption that it is reasonable to expect a person to perform these acts every day for the rest of his or her life. At the beginning of 1998, the NIH published their final recommendations for the strategy that will guide their diabetes initiative. One of their recommendations to "achieve desirable outcomes" is to "apply behavioral theories and strategies to maximize diabetes self-management". Their recommendations are to "develop and evaluate strategies that address social and cultural barriers to adherence," and "to study interventions to decrease psychiatric and social co-morbidities in individuals with diabetes (for example, depression, eating disorders, and family dysfunction)."
Perhaps the best test of these "behavioral theories and strategies" would be to follow 1,441 non-diabetic people over a period of 10 years as they try to comply with the regimen of injections, restrictions and uncertainty that is expected of the diabetic population. The conclusion would, I'm sure, be that the regimen itself is unreasonable and that the co-morbidities of depression, eating disorders and family dysfunction are, after all, only human. The disparity between the findings of the DCCT and the continued escalation of secondary complications points to one undeniable truth—only a cure for diabetes can have any significant impact on the human toll the disease extacts.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040506092428/http://www.insulinfreetimes.org/itimesv600.htm
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Hi everyone,
I just wanted to say that diabetes is a serious disease. However, once I mentally buried it, that was it! Diabetes does not define who I am and I will always define what diabetes is to me. I believe we are all individuals with our own personalities and characteristics. And, everyone here is special in my eyes. We all have hopes and dreams and whether we have a blood sugar challenge or a broken foot challenge, it is no big deal. Life goes on. Living life to the fullest, is what's valuable to me! I am so proud of everyone!! Have a very Merry Christmas! Cheers to all!
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You rock Allie!
Even if my sugars are pretty good and I have a couple of wacko readings thrown in there I can't usually NOT feel emotional about it....especially when the doc downloads them
Keep Pressin' on!~
Jaimie
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Now there is a choice ... a Person can choose to be medicated or alternatively a Person can choose to "eat less OFTEN" ... because it is 'eating too OFTEN' that CAUSES diabetes ... an above average plasma glucose concentration [PGc] ... in a Diabetic's body.
Posted by bird54 on 16 December 2007
http://www.diabeteshealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html
"... What if diabetes is not a disease at all, but a normal response to an overabundance of food? What if the cure is so simple, that we, in all of our knowledge have overlooked it? What if the answer really is “easy”? What if the cure to diabetes is to eat less often? What if diabetics could cure their diabetes by intermittent fasting? What if people could reverse their diabetes by drinking only fresh water as meal replacements, and eating only when they were hungry, instead of overeating because they are told by their health care practitioners, “Never skip a meal. Always eat breakfast. Eat many small balanced meals throughout the day.” So they do that, and they watch themselves get fatter and fatter. Then they wonder, “How did I get diabetes? I followed all the rules!” ..."
Hi bird54 & AnyOne else...
If diabetes is not a disease at all, but a normal response to an overabundance of food(?) ...
... Then WHY is diabetes not a disease at all, but a normal response to "eating too often" ?
The CAUSE of diabetes was apparently first published as early as 1938 by Dr Michael Somogyi.
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MICHAEL SOMOGYI
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Somogyi
1. Somogyi, M, Kirstein, M: Insulin as a cause of extreme hyperglycemia and instability. Week Bull St Louis M Soc 32: 498, 1938.
2. Somogyi, M: Exacerbation of diabetes by excess insulin action. Am J Med, 26: 169-191, 1959.
3. Rosenbloom, AL, Giordano, BP: Chronic over-treatment with insulin in children and adolescents. Am J Dis Child 131: 881-885, 1977.
4. Gale, EA, Kurtz, AB, Tattersall, RB: In search of the Somogyi effect. Lancet 2: 279-282, 1980.
5. Bolli, GB, Gottesman, IS, Campbell, PJ, Haymond, MW, Cryer, PE, Gerich, JE: Glucose counter-regulation and waning of insulin in the Somogyi phenomenon (post-hypoglycemic hyperglycemia). N Engl J Med 311: 1214-9, 1984.
6. Cryer, PE, Gerich, JE: Glucose counter-regulation, hypoglycemia, and intensive insulin therapy in diabetes mellitus. NEngl J Med 313: 232-241, 1985.
7. Walker, H: Michael Somogyi, PhD (1883-1971) Metabolism 21: 589-590, 1972.
8. Gee, DA: Working Wonders. A History of the Jewish Hospital of St. Louis 1891-1992.
9. Szállási, Á: Egy ismert effektus alig ismert névadója. Somogyi Mihály (1883-1971). Orvosi Hetilap 142: 1749-1750, 2001.
10. Jobst, K: A kémikus diabetologus. Lab Diagn 21: 295, 1994.
11. Kollind, M, Lins, PE, Adamson, U: The man behind the phenomenon. Michael Somogyi and blood glucose regulation in unstable diabetes. A controversial hypothesis still discussed. Lakartidningen 88: 878-879, 1991.
12. Kirstein, MB, Pareira, MD, Sachar, LA, Wasserman, HC: Twenty years of diastase and pancreatitis investigation at the Jewish Hospital of Saint Louis, Missouri, Bull of the St. Louis Jewish Hospital staff 8: 12-19, 1951.
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> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intensive_insulinotherapy
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conventional_insulinotherapy
Somogyi's discovery suggests that "eating too often" can cause 'surges' of pancreatic beta-cell insulin [BCI] to be produced ...
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinsulinemia
... AND that surges of BCI can cause plasma glucose concentration [PGc] to be reduced too low and/or well below 72 mg/dL IE 4 mmol/L PGc
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Somogyi_rebound.GIF
... BECAUSE the BCI surges 'pump' glucose out of the blood plasma and >>> into fat cells, into muscle cells & into liver cells <<< then there can be a potential short-fall of glucose remaining for delivery, by the bloodstream, into the brain/nerves
> www.tinyurl.com/23akqw [Relative-HYPOglycemia]
... POTENTIALLY leading to relative-HYPOglycemia DISTRESS of the brain/nerves and consequent forms of neuro-psychiatric challenges because of relative glucose starvation perceived by the brain/nerves
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetic_hypoglycemia
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... SO to protect the brain/nerves from glucose starvation the brain instructs Transient Supernormal-Glycemia [TSG aka HYPERglycemia aka diabetes] IE glucose production from the LIVER and diabetes is produced ... where the Diabetic HYPERglycemia is saving the life of the Diabetic fortunate enough to have adaptively manifested the diabetes-response to 'the Somogyi effect'.
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoglycemia
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucagon
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gluconeogenesis
> 0103 www.tinyurl.com/yszb9q [rortiz1@tulane.edu]
DIABETES PREVENTS SCHIZOPHRENIA
> 0367 www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99 [Dr Allan Cott]
> 0293 www.tinyurl.com/3xh4ne [OrthoMolecularHealth.org]
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia
> 0407 www.tinyurl.com/2e3n8b [nutritional distressor]
> www.tinyurl.com/2459gp [Neuro-Glyco-Penia]
... BUT if the Diabetic is fortunate enough to "eat less OFTEN" ... this practice gradually adapts the fat/muscle/liver cells to the glucose / insulin surges by way of increasing peripheral tissue glucose insulin resistance [GIR] ... to 'amplify' the efficiency of glucose delivery to the brain/nerves the Person's also adaptively manifests decreased brain/nerve tissue glucose insulin resistance GIR to brain nerve insulin [BNI] so that the PGc available for supply to the brain/nerves can more efficiently be delivered, by the blood-stream, to the brain/nerves.
> 1107 www.tinyurl.com/2u88dx [mattsonm@grc.nia.nih.gov]
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> 0400 www.tinyurl.com/2j7p3t [dfadool@neuro.fsu.edu]
bird54 PLEASE discuss your opinion as to these relatively new proposals ... that 'insulin resistance' is ALWAYS BENEFICIAL and that a lack of 'insulin resistance' and/or diabetes may well explain the disease of Schizophrenia; and in respect of Somogyi's 1938 discovery & associated references ... what steps would You advise/speculate to maximize the Honeymoon Period for any newly diagnosed type 1 Diabetic?
> www.TheDiabetesBlog.com/2007/04/03/the-honeymoon-period
> 0407 www.tinyurl.com/29kvda [zangend@hadassah.org.il]
> 0802 www.tinyurl.com/2qxuzh [Fortunato.Lombardo@unime.it]
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/3au3a5 [LoveDiabetes.com]
In respect of ALL the opinions included within this comment ... please AnyOne ... ALSO ask your current Specialist for advice including the provision of supporting Peer reviewed references evidencing their understanding of this important matter.
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2vp4e9 [DrBernarr@aol.com]
…Warm thanks & AdrenalinLove; Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian c/o www.DiabetesHealth.com @ MON.24.DEC.2007 @ 21:23hrs (C) "I-eat-less-OFTEN-I-fast-more-OFTEN".
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Eating less OFTEN is profoundly more healthy than eating less...
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> www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/12/19/5575.html
> www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/12/03/5558.html
> www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/27/5541.html
> 1107 www.tinyurl.com/yrr5kd [LoveDiabetes.com]
> 1107 www.tinyurl.com/2hdnt9 [gyula.soltesz@aok.pte.hu]
> 0176 www.tinyurl.com/2vzlps [jackie.wallace@faht.scot.nhs.uk]
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_disease
> www.HealSelf.org/Alzheimer's%20Disease.html
> www.HealSelf.org/Diabetes.html [DrBernarr@aol.com]
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It is 'Eating too OFTEN' that is the main avoidable CAUSE that CAUSES and sustains "diabetes" ... an above average plasma glucose concentration ... inside of a Diabetic's blood-stream.
Inside the blood-stream is outside the tissues [aka organs].
Every day excess 'water-soluble' substances, inside the blood-stream, can easily be [and naturally are] urinated to outside of the body EG excess urea, excess salt, excess glucose, excess vitamins, excess water.
Now there is a choice ... a Diabetic can choose to be medicated to rapidly force excess glucose from outside of their tissues into >>> the inside of their tissues OR alternatively a Diabetic can CHOOSE to "eat less OFTEN" [every day better in every way] to encourage glucose, from inside their blood-stream, to be gradually better digested [and/or expelled, by urination, to outside of their blood-stream, into their bladder and outside of their body].
The CAUSE & CURE for type 1, type 2, type 3 & type 4 diabetes is set out and reference-linked above & below...
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2v9ajm [LoveDiabetes.com]
What is your CHOICE & why?
Happy Christmas and All health to YourSelf, Family & AnyOne else.
In respect of ALL the opinions included within & associated with this comment ... please AnyOne ... ALSO ask your current Specialist for advice, including the provision of supporting Peer reviewed references, evidencing their understanding of this important matter.
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2vp4e9 [DrBernarr@aol.com]
…Warm thanks & AdrenalinLove
Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian c/o www.LoveDiabetes.com @ TUE.25.DEC.2007 @ 23:17hrs (C) "I-eat-less-OFTEN-I-fast-more-OFTEN"
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www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/12/19/5575.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/12/03/5558.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/27/5541.html
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> 0367 www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99 [Dr Allan Cott]
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_disease
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Note: Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease. It is NOT caused by "eating too often" or eating the wrong foods. That would be TYPE 2 diabetes, and other variants of it.
Type 1 diabetes is an immune system disorder that is likely triggered by a VIRUS in those with the genes for it.
I have been a Type 1 diabetic since I was a baby (after a virus). I was a normal (underweight) child. I am a very thin adult. I also wear an insulin pump, and have to fast many times due to my schedule. I have gone for days without eating (do NOT do this without a pump, or you could go into a coma). I miss meals often.
I also have Celiac Disease (cannot eat wheat and many other grains) and multiple food allergies. I cannot eat processed foods, and eat very healthy.
Trust me, "excess eating" is NOT the cause of Type 1 diabetes. Like how many other Type 1's feel, if all we had to do was eat right and exercise (a solution for Type 2 diabetes) we would have "cured" ourselves a LONG time ago.
Cheers to ignorance.
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Also note that true Type 1 diabetics do NOT HAVE INSULIN RESISTANCE. They have an insulin DEFICIENCY. I am VERY insulin sensitive.
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Sarah,
Thanks for stating the truth! You are correct, in Type 1 diabetes we do not produce enough insulin. I am taking insulin for only the deficiency and environmental toxins, stress. I do not really take insulin for the foods I eat, since they do not increase my blood sugar. Type 1 diabetes has many factors and the more insulin your own body produces, the less you have to take. Most important, each individual is different. Diabetes is not in our family, and mine (Type 1) was caused from a childhood vaccination. Thanks again, for your comments.
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It is 'Eating less OFTEN' that is the main available CURE that CURES relative-HYPOglycemia and thereby avoids and/or CURES "diabetes" ... an above average plasma glucose concentration ... inside of a Diabetic's blood-stream which protects every Diabetic from the extra-ordinary challenges of relative-HYPOglycemia.
Inside the blood-stream is outside the tissues [aka organs].
Every day excess 'water-soluble' substances, inside the blood-stream, can easily be [and naturally are] urinated to outside of the body EG excess urea, excess salt, excess glucose, excess vitamins, excess water.
Now there is a choice ... a Diabetic can choose to be medicated to rapidly force excess glucose from outside of their tissues into >>> the inside of their tissues OR alternatively a Diabetic can CHOOSE to "eat less OFTEN" [every day better in every way] to encourage glucose, from inside their blood-stream, to be gradually better digested [and/or expelled, by urination, to outside of their blood-stream, into their bladder and outside of their body].
> 1007 www.tinyurl.com/3aypqg [mristow@mristow.org]
The CAUSE & CURE for all 5 types of 'Relative-HYPO-glycemia disease' aka ... type 0, type 1, type 2, type 3 & type 4 diabetes ... is set out and reference-linked above & below...
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/3au3a5 [LoveDiabetes.com]
http://www.TheDiabetesBlog.com/2007/04/03/the-honeymoon-period
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2v9ajm [LoveDiabetes.com]
> 0802 www.tinyurl.com/2qxuzh [Fortunato.Lombardo@unime.it]
> 0407 www.tinyurl.com/29kvda [zangend@hadassah.org.il]
> 1107 www.tinyurl.com/yrr5kd [LoveDiabetes.com]
> 0367 www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99 [Dr Allan Cott]
What is your CHOICE & why?
Posted by bird54 on 25 December 2007
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html
"... The research supporting “eating less often, fasting more often” is astounding. I think that if one looks at a meal as a "reward" for a hard day's work, then it is easy to fast all day. Now that I eat less often, I get excited about eating dinner, and I look forward to it all day, whereas before, it was a chore--I had to eat breakfast whether or not I was hungry because I didn't want to “ruin my metabolism” by not eating the "most important" meal of the day. I often ate snacks and meals, not because I was hungry, but because I wanted to make sure I got all my nutrients to prevent disease. Now when I look at all the research, it makes sense not to eat so often. ..."
Posted by Sarah on 26 December 2007
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2xq29m [LoveDiabetes.com]
"... Note: Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease ..."
Posted by Sarah on 26 December 2007
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"... Also note that true Type 1 diabetics do NOT HAVE INSULIN RESISTANCE ... I am VERY insulin sensitive ..."
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Hi bird54, Sarah, Julie & AnyOne else...
Please note that eating less OFTEN reduces inflammation [aka auto-immune disease] & increases glucose insulin resistance [GIR] ... and those are 2 of the means by which eating less OFTEN can CURE type 0, type 1, type 2, type 3 & type 4 diabetes.
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Why choose to eat more OFTEN when eating less OFTEN can reduce auto-immune disease, increase glucose insulin resistance [GIR] and CURE diabetes?
Levels of insulin need to be very carefully regulated and Athletes commonly have relatively extraordinary low basal levels of pancreatic beta-cell insulin [BCI]. Relatively less OFTEN 'surges' of pancreatic beta-cell insulin [BCI] are usually better ... unless more insulin is accompanied by an appropriate level of REGULATORY glucose insulin resistance [GIR] ... then arguably the more brain/nerve insulin [BNI] the better ...
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FORTUNATELY type 0, 1, 2, 3 or 4 diabetes all involve protective glucose insulin resistance [GIR] and can be assisted by reduced inflammation [aka auto-immunity] ... for example please comment on this reference ...
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In my opinion type 1 Diabetics can benefit a great deal from glucose insulin resistance [which appears to be one of the PROTECTIVE roles of C-peptide]. One of the functions of glucose insulin resistance GIR is to re-route glucose to the brain/nerves and thereby PROTECT the body from relative-HYPOglycemia. Apparently, from reading BetterCell's blog, it appears BetterCell's glucose insulin resistance GIR is relatively LOW ... especially on the day of his recent alarming challenges with apparent severe relative-HYPOglycemia / mild absolute-HYPOglycemia ...
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2k6979 [BetterCell.blogspot.com]
It is certainly apparent that most type 1 Diabetics would benefit from MORE glucose insulin resistance [GIR] / C-peptide.
> 0107 www.tinyurl.com/2eyxy3 [john.wahren@ki.se]
What's new about this understanding is understanding the profound similarities, in common, between type 0 & 1 & 2 & 3 diabetes ... all of which are apparently triggered & sustained [ie 'the CAUSE'] by 'cyclical neural starvation' of glucose availability, to the brain/nerves, aka "relative-HYPOglycemia".
Diabetes is NOT a disease [it is the associated 'HYPOglycemia' that is the 'disease'] ... diabetes aka HYPERglycemia [that can exist for years] is a 'physiological body state' that protects the nervous system [especially the brain] from the extraordinary dangers of ... beta-cell and/or HYPERinsulinemia [excess insulin] associated ... "relative-HYPOglycemia" [which starves the nervous system of fuel and can result in profound challenges within minutes or even seconds with little or zero notice].
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Beta-cell and/or HYPERinsulinemia [excess insulin] associated "relative-HYPOglycemia" is the apparent reason, in my opinion, for adaptative 'auto-immune' down-regulation of beta-cells c/o the body's immune system [and could reasonably be described as 'Alzheimers of the beta-cell-brain']
> 0103 www.tinyurl.com/2rh6fz">www.tinyurl.com/2rh6fz [hmdosch@sickkids.ca]
In my opinion UNdrugTREATED type 2 diabetes [aka "cellular dietary restriction"] is a protective adaptative response which, by means of protecting the brain from "relative-HYPOglycemia", can be expected to reduce or eliminate type 3 diabetes aka 'Alzheimers'.
> 0107 www.tinyurl.com/2farm9">www.tinyurl.com/2farm9 [temorgan@usc.edu]
In respect of ALL the opinions included within & associated with this comment ... please AnyOne ... ALSO ask your current Specialist for advice, including the provision of supporting Peer reviewed references, evidencing their understanding of this important matter.
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2vp4e9 [DrBernarr@aol.com]
…Warm thanks & AdrenalinLove
Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian c/o www.LoveDiabetes.com @ WED.26.DEC.2007 @ 23:27hrs (C) "I-eat-less-OFTEN-I-fast-more-OFTEN".
Eating less OFTEN is profoundly more healthy than eating less...
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What is your CHOICE & why?
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Posted by bird54 on 26 December 2007
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'... Thank you, Nick, for all the info. I went to www.tinyurl.com/2farm9 and then clicked on all the "related links". There is more information on the benefits of restricted diets, intermittent fasting, and exercise that show how it reduces inflammation, increases brain health and extends lifespan. I wonder why health care professionals never tell us the benefits of fasting but instead push drugs and medications. You hear them say, "diet and exercise" but they never recommend fasting. I think they have left out the most important factor. ...'
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'... Hi Nick and Anyone Else,
I found another article that states that fasting is good for the heart.
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"Diabetics who were studied and who fasted... were found to have healthier arteries. Diabetics, however, are never encouraged to skip meals, Dr. Horne emphasized."
WHY NOT?!
I think that it is very puzzling that even though there is overwhelming evidence to the benefits of fasting, diabetics are discouraged from fasting.
The most ridiculous thought of the day:
One should not skip meals or go on a ketogenic diet without their doctor's supervision, yet one can eat unlimited amounts of junk food and candy without any supervision at all! ...'
Hi bird54, Sarah, Julie & AnyOne else...
Please note that "fasting" is really another name for "digestion" and providing reasonable time for proper digestion reduces inflammation [aka auto-immune disease] & increases peripheral glucose insulin resistance [GIR] ... and those are just two of the means by which eating less OFTEN can CURE type 0, type 1, type 2, type 3 & type 4 diabetes.
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Certain People, at certain times of their lives, have a reduction in their powers of "digestion". A lack of ability to digest nuts is called an acute allergy. Such acute allergies are caused by 'indigestion' leading to gall-congested ducts within the liver caused by eating too OFTEN.
The lack of optimum nut-digestive capacity of certain areas of the liver then leads to an allergic response aka inflammation associated with a delayed process of "digestion" and partially digested chemicals arise, together with subsequent inflammatory digestive processes, including leukocytosis, away from the liver.
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A lack of ability to digest glucose could be called a chronic allergy. Such a chronic allergy is associated with 'indigestion' leading to gall-congested ducts within the liver caused by eating too OFTEN.
The lack of optimum glucose-digestive capacity of certain areas of the liver then leads to a chronic allergic response in the form of precision controlled 'futile-cycles' of regulatory HYPERglycemia-correcting-HYPOglycemia to which the body quickly adapts [c/o insulin C-peptide etc] by increasing glucose insulin resistance [GIR] in tissues peripheral to the brain/nerves in order to prevent the relative-HYPOglycemia, of the brain/nerves, that is caused by HYPERinsulinism from the beta-cells [caused by eating too OFTEN]. A chronic allergic response aka inflammation aka auto-immunity toward the beta-cells arises to protect the body from chronic relative-HYPOglycemia and/or absolute-HYPOglycemia which arises due to insufficient peripheral tissue glucose insulin resistance [ptGIR].
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> Somogyi, M, Kirstein, M: Insulin as a cause of extreme hyperglycemia and instability. Week Bull St Louis M Soc 32: 498, 1938.
> Somogyi, M: Exacerbation of diabetes by excess insulin action. Am J Med, 26: 169-191, 1959.
> Rosenbloom, AL, Giordano, BP: Chronic over-treatment with insulin in children and adolescents. Am J Dis Child 131: 881-885, 1977.
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Somogyi_rebound.GIF
Why choose to eat more OFTEN when eating less OFTEN and digesting more OFTEN can de-congest the liver, reduce auto-immune disease, reduce brain/nerve glucose insulin resistance [bnGIR], increase peripheral tissue glucose insulin resistance [ptGIR] and CURE diabetes?
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In respect of ALL the opinions included within & associated with this comment ... please AnyOne ... ALSO ask your current Specialist for advice, including the provision of supporting Peer reviewed references, evidencing their understanding of this important matter.
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> Somogyi, M: Exacerbation of diabetes by excess insulin action. Am J Med, 26: 169-191, 1959.
> Somogyi, M, Kirstein, M: Insulin as a cause of extreme hyperglycemia and instability. Week Bull St Louis M Soc 32: 498, 1938.
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While I DO agree that eating less can reduce inflammation and high blood sugar (both toxic to beta cells and found in autoimmune Type 1 diabetes), and that not eating reduces the exposure to foods that may be triggering Type 1 diabetes like gluten and casein (cow's milk), I think it is misguided to say that Type 1 diabetes is CAUSED by "eating too often".
I stand by my original post. Not all Type 1 diabetics have insulin resistance. I use 0.5 units per hour, and 1 unit can drop me from 19.7 mmol/l to 2.7 mmol/l. I often need less than 1 unit to bring down a high.
I also need insulin in my body 24/7 or I will go into a coma or die, even if I DON'T EAT. It's as simple as that. A Type 1 diabetic will die without insulin, even in they don't eat. Why do you think that diabetics (T1) died before insulin was discovered, even with "starvation diets"?
I'm not denying that inflammation plays a role in T1, that is well known, as is more research is sheading light on the autoimmunity/nervous system connection.
But it still sounds like you are confusing an insulin using TYPE 2 diabetic with someone with non-insulin resistant autoimmune Type 1 diabetes.
Like I said, I got Type 1 as a baby after a virus, and I fast often. Even if I go for 6 days without ANY food, I still need insulin. Period.
I do agree with what you said in regards to TYPE 2 (and Type 3: "Brain Diabetes/Alzeheimer's) diabetes. This also can improve Type 1's who have developed insulin resistance, but it cannot cure their underlying Type 1.
After just reading yet another article recently about a mom whose Type 1 child died (mom traded her insulin for a special "diet"), I think we need to warn the ignorant public that Type 1 is NOT simply a matter of diet. It is a FATAL diasese without insulin (as of now). There is NO known way around this, or we would have a cure.
If anything, a gluten and casein free diet from birth MAY help prevent Type 1 in those at risk, as well as avoiding vaccines.
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P.S. I hate to bash your sources, but schizophrenia is LINKED to diabetes!!!!
Schizophrenia is now linked to autoimmunity and the "leaky gut", which are also linked to Celiac Disease. Schizophrenia may be linked to a reaction to undigested food proteins (gluten and casein) that interfere with receptors in the brain in those genetically at risk.
Other autoimmune diseases, like Type 1 diabetes, may also have a similar "allergic reaction" to food proteins, or they may causes the "leaky gut" to become leakier, letting in viruses and other toxins, triggering autoimmunity.
The medications used to treat schizophrenia are strongly linked to Type 2 diabetes, it is possible that there is another link there as well with another form of pathology.
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Also to note, are you really suggesting I stop eating, disconnect my insulin pump, go into a coma within 6 hours and die? What the heck are you saying?
Do you REALLY know anything about TYPE 1 diabetes? Are you REALLY a researcher?
A researcher would know that Type 1 diabetics ALWAYS died before insulin was discovered. It was a horrible and painful death.
If I disconnect my insulin pump and fast, I am STILL going to die within 2 days. Period. I need insulin fasting, just like any other Type 1. This is called a "basal rate". Your body produces this basal insulin naturally. Mine cannot, since I have autoimmunity to my beta cells. I eat gluten and casein free. I fast. I take Omega 3 and Vitamin D supplements. I eat healthy. I work out. And yet I am still a "severe" diabetic.
I would say that your theory that "fasting" can "cure" Type 1 is ignorant at best, sorry to say.
Perhaps, if food is one of the triggers for autoimmunity (lectins, gluten, casein, etc.) then yes, not eating (EVER) would cure all autoimmune diseases. But the person would die from starvation (note that insulin would still be needed in the form of a basal rate), or you would need to help them regenerate their lost beta cells, if even possible.
Note that Type 1 diabetes is simply another autoimmune disease like Lupus or MS, just affecting the pancreas. If we can cure one, we can cure them all.
Just PLEASE stop implying that Type 1 can be cured "by eating less". This is NOT true, and it is insulting to those who died on starvation diets while waiting for insulin.
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Also, an nut allergy is NOT an "inability to digest nuts". That would be a GI deficiency that involves enzymes, such as lactose intolerance. NOT the same as an allergy in any way.
An allergy is an IgE *immune response* that can be immediately life threatening. This has nothing to do with a lack of digestive enzymes. Some people can stop breathing from just TOUCHING nuts, never mind eating them.
I hate to say it, but you sound like an "armchair researcher" with a computer and the internet. Please forgive my offense, but you must see why I think this. I also am working towards BSc. in the biological sciences, and while some things you say add up, many of your ideas seem to be pulled from unproven "alternative" sources with little proven science.
For instance, search Pub Med for articles about autoimmunity, gluten, casein, the leaky gut, and schizophrenia.
Diets are great for Type 2 diabetics. But please don't lump autoimmune diabetes in there, or people may die, including children.
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I also forgot to add that even with insulin (normal basal rate), my blood sugars can be dangerously high for no known reason, even if I DO NOT EAT. More than food raises blood glucose in a T1. The only way to reduce this (obviously) is with insulin, which is what I lack.
And don't suggest "exercise" for a dangerously high blood sugar in a Type 1. Exercising will INCREASE the blood sugar since there is no way to transport the needed energy into the cells (i.e. lack of insulin), so the body will burn fat for energy and create ketones, and cause acid blood and diabetic coma (DKA), which is fatal if untreated.
If you can suggest a "diet" that will *actually* cure AUTOIMMUNE diabetes (i.e. the kind triggered in thin people by a virus/pathogen/toxin/protein) and has no side effects like coma and death, please do, because I see nothing here that has anything to do with Type 1 diabetes.
P.S. What the heck is "Type 0" or "Type 4" diabetes? If you are referring to the Kir.6 mutation or MODY diabetes (both VERY rare), these are genetic defects like Down's Syndrome. A diet will have no effect.
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I think I have figured out the problem here:
Our posting friend is confused as to what the terms "Type 1" and "Type 2" diabetes means!!!
The "old school" ignorant way of thinking (i.e. WRONG):
-A "Type 1" diabetic takes insulin.
-A "Type 2" diabetic does not.
This form went out of favor in the 1960's (or something like that).
Correct and NOW USED meaning specifies the PATHOLOGY of the disease:
-Type 1 diabetes is an AUTOIMMUNE disease. Insulin is always needed.
-Type 2 diabetes is insulin resistance often caused by obesity, poor diet, and lack of exercise. They may or may not use insulin.
Using insulin does NOT make a Type 2 diabetic a Type 1 diabetic. They still have insulin resistance. Their disease does not change, their TREATMENT does. That's like giving an Asthmatic a new label because they switched from inhaled to oral steroids.
Many Type 2's mistakenly think they can "upgrade" to become a Type 1 diabetic if they do not lose weight, eat healthy, etc. None of the above will cause their genes to change and have them develop autoimmune diabetes, although they likely WILL need to go on insulin. They will now be a Type 2 diabetic who uses insulin, but they are NOT a Type 1 diabetic.
A good example of this common ignorance is Halle Berry. She was a Type 2 diabetic (very strong family history of Type 2) misdignosed as a Type 1 diabetic. Type 1 is very rare in black people, although many black Type 2's use insulin. With a proper diet, many Type 2 diabetics can stop using insulin.
A true Type 1 diabetic never can.
A Type 2 diabetic who uses insuin should not ever be classified by themselves or their doctors as having autoimmune diabetes (Type 1) because they DON'T.
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P.S. I got this off your site. What the heck is this? How to "cure" diabetes?
For Type 1:
WHAT CURES DIABETES…
(A) Maintain basal insulin [eg type 1 exogenous / type 2 endogenous] to prevent ketoacidosis [pH > 7.2].
www.jped.com.br/conteudo/07-83-S11/ing.pdf
Please note that it says that you need "exogenous" insulin to "cure" type 1 and keep the person out of a coma. Uh...that means "outside" (injected) insulin, exactly what we are using now. And let me tell you, that is no cure. That is standard treatment, and diabetes (type 1) is still the unmanageable horrible disease it has always been. How is "outside" insulin a cure for Type 1 diabetics?! Hello, I'm not cured!
Aghhh...the ignorance is killing me!
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Note for Nick:
Type 1 diabetes used to be called "Juvenile Diabetes".
It is a genetic autoimmune disease triggered by some of the following possibilities:
-A virus/bacteria/excess yeast in the gut
-Proteins such as gluten and/or casein
-Vaccines (i.e. viruses)
-A lack of immune regulators like Vitamin D and Omega 3 EFA.
All of the above would need to interact with the correct genes to produce Type 1 diabetes, just like any other autoimmune disease. Being a polygenetic disease, one must have ALL the genes plus the trigger to get the disease. This is like the genetic lottery, which is why it is *generally* uncommon to see multiple cases of Type 1 in a family. This is very different from Type 2 diabetes, where most of the family has it.
That said, about 20% of Type 1's have a strong genetic link and multiple autoimmune diseases in the family. I for example have Type 1 diabetes, Celiac Disease, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, antibodies to my adrenals (precursor to Addison's) and multiple food allergies. My mom has Type 1, Hashimoto's, and schizophrenia. My aunt is paralyzed and has Multiple Sclerosis. My uncle has Rheumatoid Arthritis and autoimmune fibrocystic lung disease. My other uncle has schizophrenia. My grandfather had Type 1 and autoimmune Pernicious Anemia. His sister has Rheumatoid Arthritis and his brother schizophrenia.
My point is that Type 1 diabetes is a disorder of the immune system, NOT a disease caused by "excess food". That is the most uneducated thing I have ever read.
How can fasting grow back a pancreas in someone who's *immune system* has destroyed it?! Without insulin, and no way to produce it, you are quickly dead. If you don't believe me, remove your pancreas and test it out in your lab.
Type 1 diabetes is an IMMUNE disorder, NOT a metabolic one. Obviously. The result of the disease process is a metabolic defect, but that is not the cause, nor the target for a cure.
Come on now....
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Also note that only 0.5% of the population has Type 1 diabetes, and only 1 in 600 kids. Only 5-10% of diabetics are Type 1.
Any article you read in the media is always about Type 2 (obesity related) diabetes, NOT Type 1.
Type 1 diabetes generaly affects thin whites of Northern European decent (i.e. Scandinavian or from places with high Viking invasion). It is very rare in Asians and blacks. In Japan, the rate is 1 in 100,000.
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"...We live in one of the richest countries in the world. I wish there were people who would have rich enough souls so they would not sell out health of millions of people.
I also believe the cure is out there but the system makes more money exploiting this condition. May God bless those who are really working to cure this disease and those who will choose to bring it to fruition and be forever blessed by all who were ever touched with this condition. May honesty and love prevail..."
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"...What is your CHOICE & why?
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Yesterday's post entitled as above ['diabetes or schizophrenia what is your CHOICE (?) & why(?)'] is dedicated to Dr Alan Cott, Dr Harry Salzer & Dr Debra Fadool because each of their references are brilliant in isolation ... and when cross-referenced their findings become extra-ordinary in helping with an explanation & understanding of diabetes. My guess is that Most would choose diabetes once it is understood how 'above-the-national-average' blood glucose concentration / transient supernormal glycemia [TSG] protects the brain/nerves from schizophrenia aka type 3b diabetes and Alzheimers aka type 3a diabetes [because greater concentrations of blood glucose facilitate improved brain functioning at certain times].
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> 'Relative-HYPOglycemia As A Cause Of Neuropsychiatric Illness' @ Journal Of The National Medical Association @ Harry M Salzer MD @ January 1966 @ Vol 58 @ Number 1 @ Table 1 @ Figure 2.
Posted by Sarah on 28 December 2007
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"...I use 0.5 units per hour, and 1 unit can drop me from 19.7 mmol/l to 2.7 mmol/l. I often need less than 1 unit to bring down a high ... I got Type 1 as a baby ... and I fast ... Even if I go for 6 days without ANY food, I still need insulin ... I think we need to warn the ... public that Type 1 is NOT simply a matter of diet ... a gluten and casein free diet from birth MAY help prevent Type 1 in those at risk, as well as avoiding vaccines ... schizophrenia is LINKED to diabetes ... The medications used to treat schizophrenia are strongly linked to Type 2 diabetes ... What the heck are you saying? ...
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... Do you REALLY know anything about TYPE 1 diabetes? ... Are you REALLY a researcher? ... I need insulin fasting, just like any other Type 1. This is called a "basal rate" ... I have autoimmunity to my beta cells. I eat gluten and casein free. I fast. I take Omega 3 and Vitamin D supplements. I eat healthy. I work out. And yet I am still a "severe" diabetic ... you would need to help them regenerate their lost beta cells ... Note that Type 1 diabetes is simply another autoimmune disease like Lupus or MS, just affecting the pancreas. If we can cure one, we can cure them all ... an nut allergy ... An allergy is an IgE *immune response* ... I also forgot to add that even with insulin (normal basal rate), my blood sugars can be dangerously high for no known reason, even if I DO NOT EAT. More than food raises blood glucose in a T1 ... And don't suggest "exercise" for a dangerously high blood sugar in a Type 1. Exercising will INCREASE the blood sugar ... the body will burn fat for energy and create ketones ... If you can suggest a "diet" that will *actually* cure AUTOIMMUNE diabetes (i.e. the kind triggered in thin people by a virus/pathogen/toxin/protein) and has no side effects like coma and death, please do ... What the heck is "Type 0" or "Type 4" diabetes? ... A good example ... is Halle Berry. She was a ... diabetic ... misdignosed ... A true Type 1 diabetic ... I got this off your site. What the heck is this? How to "cure" diabetes? ... For Type 1: WHAT CURES DIABETES… (A) Maintain basal insulin [eg type 1 exogenous / type 2 endogenous] to prevent ketoacidosis [pH > 7.2] ... Note for Nick: ... I for example have Type 1 diabetes, Celiac Disease, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, antibodies to my adrenals (precursor to Addison's) and multiple food allergies. My mom has Type 1, Hashimoto's, and schizophrenia. My aunt is paralyzed and has Multiple Sclerosis. My uncle has Rheumatoid Arthritis and autoimmune fibrocystic lung disease. My other uncle has schizophrenia. My grandfather had Type 1 and autoimmune Pernicious Anemia. His sister has Rheumatoid Arthritis and his brother schizophrenia ... How can fasting grow back a pancreas in someone ... The result of the disease process is ... metabolic ... Also note that only 0.5% of the population has Type 1 diabetes, and only 1 in 600 kids. Only 5-10% of diabetics are Type 1..."
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> Rosenbloom, AL, Giordano, BP: Chronic over-treatment with insulin in children and adolescents. Am J Dis Child 131: 881-885, 1977.
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"...Nicholas, I love your participation on our site! Thank you so much ... would like to share with you how we are trying to help folks with diabetes ... thanks! ... scott..."
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Hi anonymous, Sarah, Scott, bird54 & AnyOne else...
Eating less OFTEN and digesting more OFTEN can de-congest the liver, reduce auto-immune disease, reduce brain/nerve glucose insulin resistance [bnGIR], increase peripheral tissue glucose insulin resistance [ptGIR] and CURE diabetes.
> The main avoidable CAUSE of diabetes and way to CURE diabetes is set out in the comments & associated links above and in a more concentrated format as follows...
Eating less OFTEN cures type 2 diabetes and eating less OFTEN, even more OFTEN, cures type 1 diabetes.
WATer CURES DIABETES…
(A) Maintain maximum comfortable hydration [drinking / naso-gastic] and minimum/zero basal insulin [eg type 1 exogenous / type 2 endogenous] to prevent ketoacidosis [pH > 7.1] ie the hourly target is pH control in the range 7.2 - 7.5 and plasma blood glucose concentration above 150 mg/dL (9 mmol/L) and within 350 mg/dL (19 mmol/L) of your glucose urination threshold to minimize/prevent any possibility of relative-HYPOglycemia.
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Beta-cells continue healthy function even at 30 mmol/l or 540 mg/dL
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TYPE 1 BECOMES TYPE 2 BECOMES TYPE 0
(C) Await daily recovery [to relatively lower plasma glucose concentrations], every day better in every way, sustainable, in respect of your increased reduction of relative-HYPOglycemia ie increasingly efficient reduction of the CAUSE [of 'compensatory-HYPERglycemia'] … increasingly efficiently facilitates the gradual recovery your beta-cells & brain/nerve insulin sensitivity … ie gradually towards the total sustainable cure [days/weeks/months for type 1a & type 1.5 … or … hours/days/weeks for type 1b & type 2]. Type 1 CURE by increasing peripheral tissue glucose insulin resistance [ptGIR] ie by transiently acquiring the protective characteristics of a type 2 Diabetic and/or a type 0 [aka pre-Diabetic] and/or type 4 [aka pregnant Diabetic] wherein that ptGIR helps route fuel to to the brain ... gradually eradicating issues of relative-HYPOglycemia EG as recently experienced by BetterCell. Increased peripheral tissue glucose insulin resistance [ptGIR] provides more reliable brain/nerve glucose 'fuel efficiency' at lower plasma glucose concentrations [PGc].
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In respect of ALL the opinions included within & associated with this comment ... please AnyOne ... ALSO ask your current Specialist for advice, including the provision of supporting Peer reviewed references, evidencing their understanding of this important matter.
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…Warm thanks & AdrenalinLove
Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian c/o www.LoveDiabetes.com @ FRI.28.DEC.2007 @ 23:45hrs (C) "I-Fast-23hours-45minutes-EveryDay-OrMore".
Eating less OFTEN is profoundly more healthy than eating less...
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Type 1's DO NOT PUT OUT EXCESS GLUCOGON. That is Type 2 diabetes. Somogyi obviously didn't have the resources to know that (Type 1 diabetes wasn't discovered to be autoimmune until 1970). My professor does not allow Wikipedia to be used as a resource due to it's "unreliable" content. I have to agree.
For the last time...I do not have insulin resistance. I have a complete insulin deficiency caused by my immune system essentially being allergic to my pancreas and/or seeing it as a virus. The exact same thing happened to my thyroid gland because I have the genes for autoimmunity. Will water "fix" that too?
I use very small amounts of insulin, only what I need to try and stay in range. I eat very little (I am skinny like a twig) and fast often due to my schedule. It is not uncommon for me to eat an apple and some nuts as my meal for the whole day. My blood sugars swing wildly regardless.
How can drinking water or eating one meal per day fix this? Can it reset my immune system and regrow my beta cells? Why has this not worked then? Why do T1 diabetics with eating disorders die sooner and have MORE complications? How have you gotten it in your head that this hogwash is a "cure" for Type 1 diabetes? I do everything you say, and I still have to test my blood sugar 12 times per day and wear an insulin pump 24/7 or my heart will stop. Period.
Like most people, I also drink a lot of water. As mentioned earlier, my blood sugar levels fluctuate wildly, even if I don't eat. I have TYPE 1 diabetes, the severe form NOT caused by lifestyle.
Allie, these posts I see as spam. I don't know what exactly Nick is trying to promote, but telling people (wrongly) that he can "cure" Type 1 with water and 1 meal a day is dangerous. How many more Type 1 kids have to die because their mother's believed in these snake oil cures? Nick can post reliable articles about Type 2 and diet, as well as scientific articles. But saying water cures Type 1? That's spam and snake oil. BS, and I think he knows it.
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Check out Nick's given site: http://www.healself.org/Diabetes.html
This is the biggest load of crap (spam) I have EVER seen! It doesn't even mention Type 1 diabetes, it lumps it in together with Type 2, as usual! It essentially says that "diabetes" is caused by being unhealthy and "over-stressing" your pancreas!
Say what?! I was breastfed until I developed Type 1 diabetes (my mom also only ate organic foods...) and was pretty much the healthiest baby around. Perfect weight. I wasn't "stressed" and I only consumed breastmilk (and some rice pablum). I got a viral infection and THAT triggered my Type 1. My story is identical to most other Type 1 diabetes sufferers. Type 1 diabetes is NOT a preventable lifestyle disease like Type 2 diabetes! There is no scientific evidence to suggest this. It's not hard to understand!
Also, so much for the "healing prayers of hand laying". What a joke! My hippie mom used to have all kinds of gross strangers in the church "lay their hands on me" for "healing" as a young child. All I ever got out of that was a fear of being touched by strangers. Surprise! No cure!
In fact, I had 6 seizures as a child. No improvement at all...Not that I would have ever expected one...God gave us doctors for a reason...
One thing I DO respect is the mention of a raw food diet. This may help improve the leaky gut, which may in turn help autoimmunity. It may lower required insulin in a Type 1, but that is not a cure, obviously. I have yet to read a scientific journal that describes a true autoimmune diabetic (Type 1) that has been "cured" by "natural" means. Not even ONE.
Other than that, this article is pure BS.
Nick, I pray your kids never develop Type 1. As you cry at night for them, you will hate the idiots that post useless garbage like this article. Your kids will have to fight for their lives everyday, and everyday people will try to blame them for their disease and sell them snake oil cures and false hope.
If you think you have something valuable to say, please state your case intelligently in your own words, without useless jargon. Many times you simply repeat what an article says, but you completely misread it when you attempt to explain its meaning! The articles you cite will say one thing, and you will be saying the complete opposite!
I am also curious..what kind of "Dr." are you? In North America, you need a PhD (or MD/DD/DO)to be called "Dr." You signature says you do not have a PhD.
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http://www.springerlink.com/content/6238458875575460/
This is the article that you claim says that "beta cells are not harmed at (extremely high) blood sugars of 30 mmol/l).
In fact, there are many articles that prove otherwise. This article does not claim what you say.
In fact, this article DISPROVES your "cure" theory!
You claim that the way to "cure" Type 1 is to let the blood sugars run high (to avoid lows) and the body will heal itself!
This article concludes that beta cell regeneration CANNOT and DOES NOT occur during ketoacidosis, which is what happens if a Type 1 diabetic avoids insulin and/or has high blood sugar due to less insulin than needed. And in case you didn't notice, the subjects that did this are DEAD!
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http://www.type4diabetes.com/type_4_diabetes/files/BookNewsRel01.pdf
Nick, you posted this link for me in order to explain "Type 4" diabetes (Note that this term does not exist in medical communities as far as I am aware).
I do not see this as a reliable medical link for many reasons, especially since this is a self-published article.
But the main reason? This person claims to have "painful autonomic neuropathy". This is impossible. Why? Because autonomic neuropathy affects the heart, stomach, intestines, etc. A person with autonomic neuropathy may drop dead instantly from an irregular heartbeat, but they will not feel pain from it.
In addition, if a person has fatigue caused by hypoglycemia (reactive or not), this can easily be tested for and treated with diet. Also note that hypoglycemia is not "diabetes", although in some cases reactive hypoglycemia is a precursor to Type 2 diabetes, especially in the obese/overweight population.
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P.S. Since the alpha cells are destroyed along with the beta cells in long-standing Type 1 diabetes, the liver often is impaired in regards to pumping out glycogen (which is converted to glucose when needed by the body). Alpha cells->glucogon->liver->glycogen.
This is why *Type 1 diabetics* will have severe low blood sugars and be prone to hypoglycemic seizures that will require a glucogon injection and/or glucose IV in the hospital, whereas Type 2 diabetics (who still have their alpha cells intact) will not.
Juat yet another difference between Type 1 and Type 2.
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Hi Sarah and Nick,
I think your comments are wonderful and I am learning so much about diabetes! It is really exciting to read such passionate comments. It is people like you who make a difference in the world. Nick, you are a trememdous resource to me with all your links. For the past 2 years I have been reading every book I could find about diabetes, in addition to searching the web for information, but I have learned more in a short time from reading your comments than anything else.
Sarah, I hope that you will become a biochemist and find an answer to autoimmune diseases. My teenage son has Celiac disease and multiple food allergies. I think he has adrenal fatigue/exhaustion too, because he cannot handle any amount of stress. He is on a very restricted diet, takes digestive enzymes, but still has bloating after meals. While I fast daily to lose weight and control my type 2 diabetes, I would not put him on a fast for fear that he will shrivel up and blow away. He is already extremely underweight and I cannot risk him losing any more.
I really sympathize with type 1 diabetics who have to inject insulin just to stay alive. I have a hard enough time controlling my type 2 diabetes with diet and exercise. The shocker for me was that I got diabetes even though it does NOT run in my family (although I suspect my grandmother may have had gestational diabetes because of her large babies). I always exercised and ate right, and yet I got diabetes anyway. For no known reason, I just started gaining weight and then one day I had diabetes. Low carb dieting and exercise does not take off the pounds. It just maintains my weight. However, fasting puts me into mild ketosis and then I lose weight. Being a former champion gymnast, it disguists me to look in the mirror and not see the lean, muscular body I once possessed. It is not easy for anyone to live with diabetes.
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It is clear to me that "inflammation" is the cause of all diseases, including diabetes. It seems that food intolerances/allergies may be the culprit that causes inflammation. Avoiding the trigger foods (gluten, casein, eggs, nuts, soy, etc.) can reduce inflammation. Fasting also helps because it means less exposure to the trigger foods, plus giving the body time to detox. So I think that Nick is on to something here.
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Before I developed type 2 diabetes, I had a period of several years where my weight started to creep up. I went on Atkin's and lost weight. People kept telling me, "Don't go on Atkin's or you will have a heart attack!" So I took the advice of people who convinced me that I needed more "whole grains". I started eating whole wheat bread, and guess what? Within 3 months I had diabetes. Recently, I went to an allergy specialist who told me that I am allergic to milk and wheat. I wonder if the reason these grainless, low carb diets work is because many people are sensitive to gluten.
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Here is a link for Nick that explains the different forms of diabetes and their causes (note that a Type 2 cannot "turn into" a Type 1, etc. because Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes are entirely different diseases with different genetics and different causes).
A Type 2 cannot "turn into" another Type.
http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/full/30/suppl_1/S42
Bird54, I agree with your points. Although thin people who develop "Type 2 diabetes" (10% of cases) often have a rare genetic form of diabetes like MODY or really have slow onset adult Type 1 diabetes (LADA), there may be many other causes, including environmental toxins, medications (steroids, antidepressants), and even food allergies or intolerances.
Also, those who have struggled with eating disorders can be at a higher risk to develop insulin resistance and Type 2 diabetes in the future. This seems to be more of a functional adaptation than due to genetics, although genetics may make someone more prone to this.
Since you have a son with Celiac, if you were losing weight as opposed to gaining, I'd say you should be screened for Type 1 diabetes antibodies, to see if you actually have slow onset Type 1.
Either way, trying to control diabetes period is a tough go.I agree with Allie. It's hard to deal with the constant highs and lows. They are always on your mind, and you can never ignore them.
I do agree with Nick that those with Type 2 should be using diet and exercise as opposed to medication and/or insulin when at all possible (obviously a minority of people have genetic strong insulin resistance and need meds no matter what). The ADA diet is NOT a good diet plan for Type 2's...in fact, it may even cause Type 2 in the first place!
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Eating too OFTEN causes 'relative-HYPOglycemia' & 'inflammation'.
Eating too OFTEN causes & sustains all diabetes.
Pancreatic adaptions to relative-HYPOglycemia down-regulate beta-cells...
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Relieving inflammation CURES diabetes...
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Posted by bird54 on 16 December 2007
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html
"...I have been ignoring my hunger pangs during the day. I never have glucose in my urine, even after a meal, so what would be the benefit for me to fast, except to cleanse my body, reduce the inflammation, and lose excess body fat?
Dr. Bernarr suggests fasting as a cure to all diseases, not just diabetes. The Bible says, "WHEN you fast", not IF you fast, so it was common practice 2000 years ago for people to fast, whereas nowadays health care practitioners say, "Eat small meals more often, and make sure you eat a nutritious breakfast..."
Dr. Bernarr also suggest strenuous anaerobic exercises to build muscle because glucose in stored in muscle.
I think that Dr. Bernarr's cure for diabetes is very simple and straightforward. However, I think that many people want more scientific basis for a cure..."
Hi bird54, BetterCell, Brent Hoadley & AnyOne else...
Dr Bernarr's CURE for type 1 & type 2 diabetes documents a number of successful cases where love & fresh organic raw foods appear to have contributed to allowing a substantial reduction in psychological & physiological 'inflammation'.
Occasionally eating even a handful ['less' / small in quantity] of potentially irritating foods, nuts, for example, can result in an 'repetitive' inflammatory reaction EG if there is minute quantities of fungus / mold on the nuts or if the Person is sensitive to nuts in other ways [including learned behavioral responses]. AnyOne seriously wanting to CURE diabetes has to be very careful, when they eat, to choose foods that have [or are believed to have] as low potential for inflammation as reasonably possible. Eating one meal a day, within sub15 minutes, allows for '21st century intelligent' meal preparation and daily improvement ... every day better in every way ... in the selection of good wholesome [ultra-low-allergenic] foods that are nutritious & complementary to a SUSTAINABLE healing process [which includes consciously choosing to 'body-build' that food into 'nerves / muscle & bones', every day better in every way, during the 23hrs 45mins, or more, period set aside for focussed more efficient DIGESTION & subsequent assimilation].
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Between MAY.2005 [type 1] & JUN.2006 [type 2] Jorgen Vesti Neilsen provided substantial evidence for the benefit of low carbohydrate nutrition. Some 18 to 30 months later ... On FRI.28.DEC.2007 the ADA announced a belief suggesting that there may be benefit in 'low carbohydrate nutrition' but the ADA's 'four types of diabetes' JAN.2007 paper defining type 1 & type 2 diabetes ... has yet to define type 0 as 'pre-diabetes' or acknowledge Dr Suzanne De La Monte's breakthrough research identifying Alzheimer's as a type 3 / type III diabetes [aka brain/nerve glucose insulin resistance / inflammation] ... or announce that the main cause of all 'four types of diabetes' is relative-HYPOglycemia ... because of eating too OFTEN...
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In respect of type 1 & type 2 Dr Bernarr says...
"... CASE HISTORIES OF PATIENTS
WHOM WE HELPED HEAL OF DIABETES 1
Joan B., age 29, in 1985, had Type 1, Juvenile Diabetes, for 17 years. She took insulin daily. She was always thin, no matter how she ate, had increased urination, blurred vision, vaginal itching, nocturnal enuresis, was very thirsty and weak. After she was under our care, she never took insulin again, her vision became normal, never had vaginal itching, never had increased urination nor nocturnal enuresis again, exercised daily with intensity, gained muscular bodyweight and looked beautiful. We have successfully helped heal many cases of Diabetes 1, i.e., Insulin Dependent Diabetes. To our knowledge, we are the only health practitioners in the world, to have helped heal Diabetes 1. There are no other health or spiritual practitioners in the world who have ever written or lectured about their having helped heal Diabetes 1. A description of one of our Diabetes 1 cases that we helped heal, was described in David Wolfe's "Sunfood Lifestyle" first edition. David Wolfe met her and knew her before and after her Juvenile Diabetes. Her case was also described on David Karas Internet, Raw-Food@Maelstrom.StJohn.Edu message board. David Karas met her and knew her before and after her Juvenile Diabetes. She was 25 years old. She had Juvenile Diabetes for 10 years. She attended our monthly raw food potlucks-lectures-discussions, before and after her being insulin free.
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Michael S., age 67, in 1963, had Type 2, adult onset diabetes for 21 years. He took insulin daily. He was 100 pounds overweight, had blurred vision, had peripheral neuropathy, was always fatigued and generally thirsty. After he was under our care, he never took insulin again, lost the fat in his body, developed muscular tone throughout his body, exercised intensely daily, developed normal vision, his peripheral neuropathy and constant thirst disappeared..."
DIETARY DIABETES PROTOCOL = DPP
In the absence of any evidence to the contrary it appears that Dr Bernarr's dietary diabetes protocol [DDP] of 'body-building' upon fresh organic raw foods also helps to 'body-build healthy pancreatic tissue' even, for example, in an underweight type 1 who had been taking insulin for some 17 years...
> www.HealSelf.org/Diabetes.html [DrBernarr@aol.com]
CPR or coma + water + time ?
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K-WAS-NIEW-SKI's DPP
For some 30 years Dr Jan Kwasniewski has been successfully treating type 1 Diabetics, without insulin, with a DPP called the "Optimal Diet".
In Poland there are approximately 30 health clinics and 300 doctors that practice according to the teachings of Kwasniewski's Optimal Diet ...
'...Type 1 diabetes can almost always be cured. You must reduce the quantity of carbohydrates consumed to 50±15 grams per day. Because 100 grams of protein can produce about 56 grams of carbohydrates. Therefore, it is necessary to consume protein of the highest biological value which is contained in egg yolks, livers and kidneys. Minimum of a half gram of protein per kilogram of body weight per day will be sufficient. When glucose falls to a level of 6.7 - 7.2 mmol/l, and the doses of insulin are small, insulin should be given up for good. Diabetes will certainly not return providing you stick to the optimal diet Theoretically, reducing the amount of carbohydrates consumed to the recommended level should cure the diabetic on the first day. But in practice is not so simple. The diabetes is curable only after several weeks, and sometimes longer...'
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WHAT IS YOUR DDP ?
HOW HAS YOUR DDP BEEN SELECTED TO HELP HEAL & 'BODY-BUILD' YOUR BETA-CELLS?
WHY CHOOSE A DPP TO MINIMIZE INFLAMMATION WHEN SOME LOW CARB DIETS CAUSE WEIGHT LOSS BY INFLAMMATION?
Eating less OFTEN and digesting more OFTEN can de-congest the liver, can reduce inflammation, can reduce auto-immune disease, can reduce brain/nerve glucose insulin resistance [bnGIR], can increase peripheral tissue glucose insulin resistance [ptGIR] and can CURE diabetes...
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The main avoidable CAUSE of diabetes and way to CURE diabetes is set out in the comments & associated links above and in a more concentrated format as follows...
Eating less OFTEN cures type 2 diabetes and eating less OFTEN, even more OFTEN, cures type 1 diabetes.
Lithell's 1983 chronic inflammation reference relates to 'fasting' BUT that type of fasting / aka digestion is without any mention of the word "OFTEN" and therefore lacks the SUSTAINABILITY of 'better digestion associated benefits' of eating less OFTEN aka intermittent eating / intermittent fasting...
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INTERMITTENT-EATING
The difference between eating / fasting vs intermittent-eating & intermittent-fasting is that the results of an intermittent system are sustainable. EG sustainable to achieve relief from inflammation and/or sustainable to the stage of a complete CURE. It's a matter of time & effort ... like training to be a champion gymnast or intermittent-exercising ... every day better in every way ... in order to make SUSTAINABLE progress.
Diseases associated with inflammation such as 'Coeliac / Celiac' and/or 'Severe Type 1a Diabetes' and/or 'Lymes' need an intermittent eating & intermittent exercising system that ... every day better in every way ... efficiently reduces excess inflammation and efficiently builds increased muscle mass. A fast way [in my opinion] to achieve that is ... one meal a day [or less] of EXCLUSIVELY "fresh organic raw liquidiet nutrition" of minimally allergenic juicy water-rich foods [EG fruits / vegetables / raw egg yolks]. Modern technology makes this possible & sustainable. Vast quantities can be enjoyably 'eaten' within 15 minutes ... followed 23 HOURS 45 MINUTES - OR MORE of thinking, planning, exercising, digestion & assimilation BEFORE eating again. Consuming 'solid food' and/or potentially 'allergenic food' in the presence of severe inflammatory disease, within the delicate 'digestive' tissue linings and/or the pancreas, is out-of-order if there is a healthier alternative...
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celiac_lymph_nodes
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> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juice_fasting
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflammation
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease
To properly digest & assimilate 1 meal a day various hormones need to be stimulated in the body that will encourage nerve & muscle growth and create an 'assimilation-hunger' within body tissues. Eating without assimilation due to inflammation is beyond futile...
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In my opinion the world leader in EFFICIENTLY building maximum muscle mass, whilst eating the MINIMUM amount of [inflammation producing] food, is Pete Sisco...
> www.GetThisStrong.com [support@superrepequipment.com]
> www.HealSelf.org/Strong-Become%20Stronger.html [Dr Bernarr]
> www.MatthewFurey.com [zen]
> www.MattFurey.com [conditioning]
Sustainable weight control is about understanding HOW to shed fat and/or build muscle. EveryOne should understand what Pete Sisco, Dr Bernarr & Matt Furey are teaching about becoming stronger.
INTERMITTENT-EXERCISING
FOR 5 SECONDS OR MORE EVERY DAY...
AnyOne who can do a wall-facing-handstand [toes supported by the wall] for more than 5 seconds can both substantially & sustainably increase muscle mass, every day better in every way, by increasing their record hold-time for holding that 'isometric gymnastic posture' by 5 seconds extra EVERY day.
Please feedback your comments on your personal current record for the abovementioned 'posture-hold-time' and record it daily on a wall somewhere and watch the daily improvement. [EveryOne serious about healing a disease should also measure their pH at least once daily].
Anecdotally a number of TV documentaries feature tribes etc who sustain Themselves with the benefit of 1 meal a day [or less]. The muscle tone and anatomy of the Men, Women & Children is usually extra-ordinarily healthy.
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcopenia
ALTERNATIVES & CHOICES
Certain diets and/or medical mediations owe their 'weight-loss' associations to increased inflammation. EveryOne should learn from Pete Sisco as to actually how little food is needed to become stronger [EG when growth hormone is sustainably stimulated] and to be courageous enough to secure the support of a licensed medical Practitioner who is actually fit & strong & clearly manifests an understanding of the benefits of ... fresh organic raw liquidiet nutrition ... to digestion, to assimilation & to 'body-building' [including beta-cells]; AND please discuss the following intermittent eating / fasting protocol as suitable for both fat reduction [low carb] and muscle & fat gain [high carb] ... reading between the lines in so far as being applicable to AnyOne else who is diabetes/medication free? Details of any Practitioner's feedback / alternative DPP or strategy for inflammation-free 'body-building' would be most appreciated...
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone
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WATer CURES DIABETES & INFLAMMATION
(A) Maintain maximum comfortable hydration [drinking / naso-gastic] and minimum [50-75% reduction] basal insulin [eg type 1 exogenous / type 2 endogenous] to prevent ketoacidosis [pH > 7.1] ie the hourly target is pH control in the range 7.2 - 7.5 and plasma blood glucose concentration STRICTLY above 150 mg/dL (9 mmol/L) and below approximately 350 mg/dL (19 mmol/L) which should encourage Diabetic glucose urination of excess plasma glucose concentrations and simultaneously minimize/prevent any possibility of relative-HYPOglycemia [the apparent CAUSE of 'compensatory-HYPERglycemia' / aka diabetes].
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> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acidosis
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabulimia
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetic_ketoacidosis
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TYPE 1 BECOMES healthy TYPE 2 BECOMES healthy TYPE 0
(C) Await daily recovery [to relatively lower plasma glucose concentrations], every day better in every way, SUSTAINABLE, in respect of your increased reduction of relative-HYPOglycemia IE increasingly efficient reduction of the CAUSE [of 'compensatory-HYPERglycemia'] … increasingly efficiently facilitates the gradual recovery your beta-cells & increased brain/nerve insulin sensitivity … ie gradually towards the total sustainable cure [days/weeks/months for type 1a & type 1.5 … or … hours/days/weeks for type 1b & type 2]. Type 1 CURE by TSG increasing peripheral tissue glucose insulin resistance [ptGIR] ... IE by transiently acquiring the protective characteristics of a type 2 Diabetic and/or a type 0 [aka pre-Diabetic] and/or type 4 [aka pregnant Diabetic] wherein that ptGIR helps route fuel to to the brain ... gradually eradicating issues of relative-HYPOglycemia EG as recently experienced by BetterCell. Increased peripheral tissue glucose insulin resistance [ptGIR] provides more reliable brain/nerve glucose 'fuel efficiency' at lower plasma glucose concentrations [PGc].
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> Somogyi, M, Kirstein, M: Insulin as a cause of extreme hyperglycemia and instability. Week Bull St Louis M Soc 32: 498, 1938.
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In respect of ALL the opinions included within & associated with this comment ... please AnyOne ... ALSO ask your current Specialist for advice, including the provision of supporting Peer reviewed references, evidencing their understanding of this important matter.
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2vp4e9 [DrBernarr@aol.com]
…Warm thanks & AdrenalinLove
Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian c/o www.DiabetesHealth.com @ SUN.30.DEC.2007 @ 23:05hrs (C) "I-Fast-23hours-45minutes-EveryDay-OrMore"
> Eating too OFTEN causes & sustains all diabetes...
> Diabetes is not a disease ... diabetes is the CURE for relative-HYPOglycemia...
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http://www.TheDiabetesBlog.com/2007/04/19/no-food-no-problem
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Type 4, 3, 2, 1, 0 diabetes ... the ADA definitions...
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> Somogyi, M: Exacerbation of diabetes by excess insulin action. Am J Med, 26: 169-191, 1959.
> Somogyi, M, Kirstein, M: Insulin as a cause of extreme hyperglycemia and instability. Week Bull St Louis M Soc 32: 498, 1938.
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Optimal_Diet
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coeliac_disease
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juice_fasting
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflammation
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyme_disease
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PH
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acidosis
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabulimia
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetic_ketoacidosis
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcopenia
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growth_hormone
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Somogyi
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Somogyi_rebound.GIF
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_disease
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leukocytosis
> www.HealSelf.org/Alzheimer's%20Disease.html
> www.HealSelf.org/Diabetes.html [DrBernarr@aol.com]
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Allie—
I found the responses to this article (particularly those of Nick and Sarah) both interesting and disturbing. The disturbing part is the very fact that our medical community, healthcare providers and those most interested in providing optimum care for patients are actually PROMOTING diabetes as one big conglomerate “business disease.” Insulin, or the lack thereof, may be a common denominator in Type 0, 1, 1-1/2, 2, 3 . . . but the reality is, “not all fires should be extinguished with water.”
The medical community has offered these categories of diabetes to show us how much better they understand the disease today than in the past. Have you asked a physician, lately, what CAUSES Type 1? Why do some Type 2’s show insulin resistance early in life, late in life (after weight gain), or why some who are active and skinny have Type 2? The medical hypotheses show not greater understanding . . . merely an acknowledgement of how little is understood after decades of “research.” That’s not a reassuring thought, is it?
I don’t want to neglect the fact that homeopaths, naturopaths, osteopaths and any other well-meaning physicians also use diabetes to promote THEIR theories (and yes, nutraceuticals, foods, etc.) as a one-size-fits-all solution. I would ask all of these individuals: “if an alcoholic is never exposed to alcohol, is he/she an alcoholic?” If an individual is once hooked on alcohol, does the removal of alcohol then cure the disease?
The word CURE should not even come into the discussion unless after the treatment protocol, the patient can participate in normal human pursuits without fear of ‘coming down with the disease again.’ As patients, we all would be better off if doctors, the medical schools from which they spring, and research medical scientists would start asking the right questions instead of providing acceptable solutions that perpetuate their own importance and sustainability. Have you ever thought about the fact that using the older animal insulins, a diabetic could maintain better bGs by manipulating diet much more easily than today’s requirement of “feeding the rDNA insulin?”
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If a person never eats arsenic, and never dies of arsenic poisoning is a person then immune to arsenic? If a person gets arsenic poisoning, will removal of the arsenic then cure the disease? Maybe it is how one defines "disease." Is Celiac disease REALLY a disease or an intolerance to grains which are poisonous to people of Northern European desent, whose anchestors never consumed grains.
Perhaps carbohydrates and other food intolerances are poison to diabetics just as alcohol is poison to some people. An ancient person once said, "One man's food is another man's poison." Maybe removal of the offending causes and symptoms is the same as a cure. Who cares, as long as the person is well again.
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Since diabetes is an epidemic, it is becoming the "norm". If it is the norm, then can it be defined as a "disease" or something else? We have to seriously look at WHY so many are insulin resistant and diabetic. Perhaps diabetes is not the problem, but our modern diet is. If as Nick suggests, diabetes is not the disease but the body's cure for relative hypoglycemia, which is the real disease (being a reaction to our modern diet and starving the brain and nerves of glucose), then we have to call our modern high carbohydrate diet the CAUSE and the real disease, just as scurvy is not a disease but a deficiency of vitamin C. So diabetes may well be a deficiency of protein, fat,and other nutrients rather than a disease. It's definetely not like the FLU that can make you really ill and possibly kill you in a short period of time. It is a chronic "disease" which can linger on for years, or go away immediately during fasting or carbohydrate restriction (type 2 anyway) and improve in type 1.
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Before 2008 ... the CURE for 'diabetes' was here all the time We ALL just need to work togetHER to help US realize ...
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Please read this present post together with my post @ www.DiabetesHealth.com @ SUN.30.DEC.2007 @ 23:05hrs...
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html#comments
Research by Saskia N van der Crabben on 04 December 2007
...Intermittent-fasting sustainably stimulates substantially increased beneficial 'peripheral tissue glucose insulin resistance' ptGIR to help preferentially glucose-fuel the brain/nerves and defend brain/nerves from relative-HYPOglycemia...
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Research by Debra A Fadool on 04 April 2000
...Intermittent-fasting sustainably stimulates substantially increased beneficial 'brain/nerve glucose insulin production' to help preferentially glucose-fuel the brain/nerves and defend brain/nerves from relative-HYPOglycemia...
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Posted by bird54 on 30 December 2007
"...we will experience no hunger if we eat nothing at all--zero calories--and our cells are fueled by the protein and fat from our muscle and fat tissue. If we break with our fast with any amount of dietary protein and fat, we'll still feel no hunger. But if we add carbohydrates...we'll be overwhelmed with hunger and will now suffer all the symptoms of food deprivation." Gary Taubes p. 341
> www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/12/27/5606.html
Research by Gary Taubes on 25 September 2007
"...we will experience no hunger if we eat nothing at all--zero calories--and our cells are fueled by the protein and fat from our muscle and fat tissue. If we break with our fast with any amount of dietary protein and fat, we'll still feel no hunger. But if we add carbohydrates, as Drenick noted, we'll be overwhelmed with hunger and will now suffer all the symptoms of food deprivation. So why is it when we add carbohydrates to the diet we get hungry, if not irritable, lathargic and depressed, but this will not happen when we add only protein and fat? How can the amount of calories possibly be the critical factor?"
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Hi bird54, Anthony Colpo, Saskia N van der Crabben, Shane Ellison, Debra A Fadool, Lee Iacocca, Joel Kauffman, Malcolm Kendrick, Scott King, Suzanne De La Monte, Byron Richards, Lynne McTaggert, Gary North, Uffe Ravnskov, Gary Taubes & Andrew Weil...
"Eating too OFTEN" ... substantially more than is truly NEEDED ... for ANY particular Person ... at a particular TIME of their life ... causes relative-HYPOglycemia resulting in actual brain/nerve starvation and potential associated GENUINE hunger because "Eating too OFTEN" [in those particular circumstances]:-
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(A) Sustainably stimulates substantially reduced 'peripheral tissue glucose insulin resistance' ptGIR ... resulting in glucose flooding away from the brain/nerves and into the fat / liver / muscles ... resulting in actual brain/nerve starvation and genuine hunger ... increasing appetite for eating and potential obesity; and
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Relative-HYPOglycemia is the CAUSE of 'compensatory-HYPERglycemia' / aka diabetes [which EG helps prevent Alzheimer's, Parkinsons & Schizophrenia]...
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> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alzheimer's_disease
> www.HealSelf.org/Alzheimer's%20Disease.html
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> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2vp4e9 [DrBernarr@aol.com]
…Warm thanks, Happy new years & AdrenalinLove
Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian c/o www.LoveDiabetes.com @ MON.31.DEC.2007 @ 17:23hrs (C) "I-Fast-23hours-45minutes-EveryDay-OrMore"
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www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/12/19/5575.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/12/03/5558.html
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/27/5541.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/02/5548.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/04/11/5113.html
Douglas Kamerow, US editor of BMJ: Is everything you know wrong?...
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www.TheDiabetesBlog.com/2007/04/19/no-food-no-problem
www.TheDiabetesBlog.com/2007/04/03/the-honeymoon-period
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Nick mentioned "fungus" as a cause of inflammation and autoimmune diseases. Check out this website:
http://www.know-the-cause.com/Books/TheFungusLinkVolume1/tabid/84/Default.aspx
Doug Kaufman attributes fungus infested foods ( esp. grains) as the cause of many diseases including cancer and autoimmune diseases.
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Posted by bird54 on 31 December 2007
http://www.diabeteshealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html#comments
Hi Nick,
I'm going to try to summarize your theory of the cause and cure of diabetes. Let me know if this is correct:
Diabetes is caused by relative hypoglycemia. Relative hypoglycemia is caused by eating often, especially meals high in carbohydrates. When one eats, the blood stream is flooded with glucose. The pancreas releases insulin. Insulin transports the glucose into tissues and/or fat cells. As a result, blood sugar drops, resulting in relative hypoglycemia. Relative hypoglycemia causes the brain and nerve cells to be deprived of glucose. The body compensates by becoming insulin resistant, thereby not allowing the glucose to enter the tissues, but instead to remain in the blood stream to supply the brain and nerves. The more one eats, the higher ones blood sugar rises in order to prevent hypoglycemia. Therefore the cure to diabetes is to eat less often so that there are fewer fluctuations in blood sugar and therefore fewer episodes of relative hypoglycemia. Eating also causes inflammation (due to glucose intolerance and/or food intolerances) When the pancreatic beta cells become inflamed, they stop producing insulin, as a protective mechanism because insulin is what causes hypoglycemia. So diabetes is a vicious cycle that can only be broken by intermittent fasting.
Is this correct?
Hi bird54 [yes pretty much],
Happy New Years to You & AnyOne else...
Another theory, proposed in 1978, as to the CAUSE and CURE of diabetes ... apparently cured 7 out of 32 'type 1 Diabetics' & cured 31 out of 87 'type 2 Diabetics'. However well that CURE works for CURING type 1 & type 2 diabetes there is still room for improvement and alternative theories.
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Diabetes is caused by eating too OFTEN which reduces brain/nerve insulin production, reduces liver 'digestion efficiency' and reduces 'glucose insulin resistance' [GIR] ... increasing glucose entry into [and storage in] any 'peripheral tissues' [having insulin receptors] such as liver, fat & muscle cells. Relative-HYPOglycemia is caused by eating too OFTEN especially meals relatively high in carbohydrates. When AnyOne eats, especially carbohydrates/glucose, the blood-stream is usually flooded with glucose. The pancreas releases insulin in response to increasing concentrations of glucose.
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Insulin increases the efficiency of glucose entry into [and storage in] 'peripheral tissues' such as liver, fat & muscle cells. As a result, blood glucose concentration drops, sometimes resulting in relative-HYPOglycemia. Relative-HYPOglycemia results from brain & nerve cells being deprived of the glucose that has been 'drained' out of the blood-stream by the insulin. The body compensates, by becoming 'glucose insulin resistant', thereby resisting glucose entry into any peripheral tissues having insulin receptors. Now there is a higher glucose concentration remaining in the blood-stream to help better supply the glucose-fuel needs of the brain & nerves. That process is called 'compensatory-HYPERglycemia'. Now whenever AnyOne [who's body is trying to prevent relative-HYPOglycemia] eats EG 'excess glucose' ... their blood glucose concentration rises temporarily, to an above-the-national-average concentration [transient supernormal glycemia aka TSG] in order to help prevent relative-HYPOglycemia [EG type 0, type1, type 2 & type 4 diabetes]. Eating less OFTEN increases glucose insulin resistance and increases 'localized' brain/nerve insulin production [all for 'fine-tuning' of brain/nerve glucose metabolism]. Therefore the CURE for diabetes is to eat less OFTEN so that there are fewer rapid-reductions in brain/nerve glucose concentration and therefore fewer episodes of relative-HYPOglycemia. When EG a Child is growing ... above-the-national-average concentrations of growth hormone are sometimes produced which cause relative-HYPOglycemia. When such a Child eats too OFTEN the pancreatic beta-cells become 'inflamed' in order to help reduce insulin production and increase 'compensatory-HYPERglycemia' [EG type 1a diabetes] ... all in order to help protect the brain/nerves from potential SEVERE acute relative-HYPOglycemia. When an aging Adult eats too OFTEN too often IE too OFTEN for too-LONG-a-time ... the brain/nerve cells become chronically 'starved & inflamed' from lack of 'localized' brain/nerve insulin production, and increase 'compensatory loss-of-appetite' / 'loss-of-memory-to-eat' / 'eating less OFTEN' [EG type 3a diabetes], to help protect the brain from potential SEVERE chronic relative-HYPOglycemia [by increasing 'localized' brain/nerve insulin production]. Eating also causes inflammation [due to various food intolerances associated with an inefficient liver function]. Diabetes is a protective cycle that can be controlled and/or CURED, as required, by intermittent-fasting [which also increases liver 'digestion efficiency'] and intermittent-eating of minimally allergenic foods.
How reasonable is this "Gracey HYPOthesis"?
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In respect of ALL the opinions included within & associated with this comment ... please AnyOne ... ALSO ask your current licensed Specialist for advice, including the provision of supporting Peer reviewed references, evidencing their understanding of this important matter.
> 0367 www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99">www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99 [Dr Allan Cott]
> www.HealSelf.org/Diabetes.html">www.HealSelf.org/Diabetes.html [DrBernarr@aol.com]
…Warm thanks & AdrenalinLove
Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian c/o www.LoveDiabetes.com">www.LoveDiabetes.com @ TUE.01.JAN.2008 @ 22:44hrs (C) "I-Fast-23hours-45minutes-EveryDay-OrMore"
Eating too OFTEN causes & sustains all diabetes...
> Diabetes is not a disease ... diabetes is the CURE for relative-HYPOglycemia...
Eating less OFTEN is profoundly more healthy than eating less...
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> 1107 www.tinyurl.com/2u88dx [mattsonm@grc.nia.nih.gov]
> 1007 www.tinyurl.com/3aypqg [mristow@mristow.org]
> 0407 www.tinyurl.com/29kvda [zangend@hadassah.org.il]
> 1206 www.tinyurl.com/y7znor [hmdosch@sickkids.ca]
> 0205 www.tinyurl.com/2e48a7 [Suzanne_DeLaMonte_MD@Brown.edu]
> 0503 www.tinyurl.com/ys63gk [anson@jhu.edu]
> 0501 www.tinyurl.com/yqf8gj [maeda@ys7.u-shizuoka-ken.ac.jp]
> 0400 www.tinyurl.com/2j7p3t [dfadool@neuro.fsu.edu]
> 0100 www.tinyurl.com/ypozqv [rosenal@peds.ufl.edu]
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/12/27/5606.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/12/19/5575.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/12/03/5558.html
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/27/5541.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/02/5548.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/04/11/5113.html
Douglas Kamerow, US editor of BMJ: Is everything you know wrong?...
> 0707 www.tinyurl.com/2x3t6l [dkamerow@bmj.com]
www.TheDiabetesBlog.com/2007/04/19/no-food-no-problem
www.TheDiabetesBlog.com/2007/04/03/the-honeymoon-period
> 0198 www.tinyurl.com/yr27rt [okh@hst.aau.dk]
> 0367 www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99">www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99 [Dr Allan Cott]
> 1135 www.tinyurl.com/2v8pyq [feedback@apinchofhealth.com]
www.tinyurl.com/3au3a5 [LoveDiabetes.com]
www.tinyurl.com/2v9ajm [www.LoveDiabetes.com">www.LoveDiabetes.com]
www.tinyurl.com/yrr5kd [LoveDiabetes.com]
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2vp4e9 [DrBernarr@aol.com]
> www.HealSelf.org [DrBernarr@aol.com]
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Nick does make some good points. But he must remember not to confuse Type 1 with Type 2 diabetes. As of now, all evidence suggests that Type 1 diabetes is an autoimmune disease and NOTE a metabolic one. If eating less helps the course of Type 1 diabetes, it is mainly due to removing the offending food PROTEINS triggering the disease, not the amount of food itself.
Also please note that fasting can CAUSE Type 2 diabetes, as seen in recovering anorexics.
Getting back to the theory, if gluten and casein are some of the triggers for Type 1, then I would not be helping myself if I only ate 300 calories per day...and they were all from these sources. The key would be removing the offending foods, NOT so much in reducing food in general per se.
The raw food diet may help with the leaky gut and reduce inflammation, which is why I agree that it is useful in treating Type 1 diabetes (as long as you avoid fish and raw eggs, which could kill a Type 1 diabetic with weakened immunity). The leaky gut is where the dietary and/or viral triggers (assuming this is a piece of the puzzle) for Type 1 are thought to enter.
I have heard of people with autoimmune Type 1 reducing their insulin needs with a raw diet, but again, I have NEVER seen a MEDICAL JOURNAL article on someone being truly "cured" by diet. I have seen many "word of mouth" stories on the internet, and 90% of what you read on the internet is a lie. Think about it: If I were REALLY cured of AUTOIMMUNE diabetes, I would be calling the media, writing a book, calling the papers, calling the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation, calling the top researchers on the planet, telling the world...
I would be submitting papers to research journals and looking to claim a Nobel Prize. I would NOT be posting my "claim" on some obscure "alternative" website.
There is no way to actually prove any of these "stories". Also, some people have a RARE form of diabetes that is called Type 1B. It mainly affects blacks and it is NOT autoimmune like most cases of Type 1 diabetes. The need for insulin comes and goes throughout the person's life. Again, this is NOT the form that most people with Type 1 diabetes have. It would be less than 1% of cases.
I think we must take all of this info in with a grain of salt.
Yes, a Western diet is the trigger for most cases of Type 2 diabetes. This may be due to many factors.
Yes, a whole and natural foods diet with controlled portions will go a long way to prevent, treat, and "cure" Type 2 diabetes in general (note that it is not really a "cure" as if you go off the diet, the disease will return).
Yes, Big Pharma (and until recently the ADA) wants to keep people unhealthy and medicated by advocating high carb diets and plenty of meds. But also realize that people are lazy, and some actually PREFER popping a pill to eating a healthy diet and exercising. I've seen MANY Type 2 diabetics go off insulin and have a NORMAL A1c simply by eating right and losing weight.
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BUT:
Type 1 diabetes is not going to be "cured" (I use this term loosely) as simple as Type 2 diabetes.
Type 1 diabetes is an entirely different ballgame.
It is complex, and eating less is not going to be enough to reset the immune attack on the pancreas.
Remember, even if beta cells CAN regenerate (and they may not in all cases even if possible), they will be destroyed again by the immune attack that killed them off in the first place, unless that trigger is removed.
And we still don't know what those trigger(s) are yet, although we have some guesses.
So eating less CANNOT cure Type 1 diabetes.
It doesn't affect the pathology (cause) of the disease.
Nor can drinking water or any other ridiculous claim. I want to make that clear.
One interesting way to play around with the food protein/autoimmunity trigger is to see if people on IV insulin and glucose drips in the hospital show reduced signs of autoimmunity in their bloodwork. If they are not eating *anything* (because we cannot be certain which foods are the triggers), then their autoimmunty and/or c-peptide (if regeneration is possible) should at least improve.
Also note that blood sugars must be 100% normal for beta cells to "regenerate" if this is possible in humans. Anything outside this range is toxic to beta cells, contrary to what Nick says. This is one reason why if Dr. Faustman's cure theory works, a transplant will be needed in the short-term to allow for regeneration of the person's own beta cells.
The bottom line is that "curing" Type 1 diabetes is NOT SIMPLE. No matter what people say. Type 1 diabetes has been around since the early Egyptians (probably earlier). People with Type 1 ALWAYS DIED quickly without insulin, including those on restricted starvation diets and those fasting. I'm sure they also drank a lot of water to quench their horrible thirst as they wasted away and died, because no glucose could get into their cells without insulin.
The cure for Type 1 likely involves:
-Removing the triggers of the disease (i.e. viruses dormant in the body, food proteins)
-Closing the "leaky gut", which may include addressing any fungal/yeast infections (I agree on this issue).
-Modifying the immune attack that may be set in place permanantly if the Type 1 diabetes is long-standing. Drugs likely will be needed, along with genetic modification (years away). A good example of this is refractory Celiac Disease in those who have had the disease undiagnosed, and continued to eat gluten for years. The gluten free diet does NOT put them into remission.
-Drugs and/or hormones that will encourage beta cells to regenerate, and/or transplants of beta cells for those who cannot regenerate their beta cells.
-Similar steps could be taken to treat/"cure" other autotimmune disease, like autoimmune thyroid disease (which I also have).
MS and Diet Link:
http://www.direct-ms.org/diethypothesis.html
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To point out:
I have Type 1(autoimmune) diabetes. I eat very little for the most part, and yes, I have fasted for a few days each week for long periods of time.
I eat very healthy, low carb (sometimes as low as 18 grams per day), and drink lots of water.
My Celiac diet (no Milk/casein/whey either) restricts what I eat. I also try to avoid large amounts of lectins, as found in legumes. I used to LOVE beans, but due to my allergies, I have not had them in a year.
I eat a lot of fruit and veggies, even though I have allergies (minor) to most fruits. All of my allergies were diagnosed by a medical doctor with standard methods (i.e. RAST, skin-prick, interdermal injections).
I am a healthy weight (I'm thin). I exercise and am muscular for a female. I am very insulin sensitive, not insulin resistant.
I take Omega 3 EFA, Vitamin D (an immune modulator), and other anti-inflammatories. For awhile I started using tanning beds to up my Vitamin D levels as well (yes, I know this is bad), and surprisingly, my immune system got WORSE! I had a cold for 3.5 weeks!
While I will not dispute that all of the above has helped me retain my insulin sensitivity, it has NOT cured me in anyway.
If Nick's "theory" is true, why not? Why am I not "cured" if I am going above and beyond what a person can do to reduce their autoimmunnity?
Why is there not ONE scientific published case of someone with autoimmune (key word) Type 1 diabetes being cured after longstanding disease if it's that simple?!
I will be adding probiotics and the raw food diet next to see if it will help (note I don't expect to be "cured") with my various autoimmune diseases and allergies. I originally had high hopes, but since my health problems are getting worse and not better even though I am doing everything "right", I am skeptical.
My blood sugars are more unstable than ever, I still have severe lows and unexplained highs (although no more seizures since being diagnosed with Celiac and getting an insulin pump). I am brittle, and my blood sugar can rapidly swing in minutes. This happens no matter what I eat or do, although I do believe my food allergies are playing a role. However, I am allergic to EVERYTHING I was tested for. Unless I cure my problem (bad genes and a leaky gut), I am screwed unless I stop eating and starve to death.
I feel like I am getting sicker and sicker, not better. And I am one of those who puts a LOT of effort into being healthy, or just fighting to stay alive, period.
Believe me when I say, "curing" Type 1 diabetes is NOT as simple as what Nick would like some people to think. Again, each day I run the risk of early death. It's insulting to think that people think I can "cure" myself but that I "choose" not to.
Trust me, my heart already stopped once duing a diabetic seizure (at the hospital). I prefer to stay out of the hospitals and graveyards, at least until I reach age 30.
Again, there is NO "quick" fix for Type 1 diabetes.
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FASTING *CAUSES* INSULIN RESISTANCE (as seen in starving African populations who are given food aid in abundance):
http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/jc.2006-2491v1
This would make sense, considering that it was a protective mechanism for survival in times of famine. Now, we eat too much, and the wrong things more inportantly, and exercise too little.
The best thing is not fasting, but high fibre, high good fats, low bad fats, small to moderate complex whole grain carbs, moderate lean protein (fish), and small and frequent meals (in general, assuming you have no food allergies that need to be addressed). Foods should be in their natural state (orgnaic if possible), canned, baked, and processed foods should be avoided.
Exercise is KEY. Nowadays, we drive to work, work at a desk, and drive home or to a fast food joint for "food". This is killing people and the body was not meant to function like this. Just a little effort and common sense, and Type 2 diabetes would be rare, as would obesity.
Exercise is needed to reduce insulin resistance (Type 2 diabetes).
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1890392
Fasting makes insulin resistance WORSE (implications for Type 2 diabetes, which only makes sense if the body thinks its starving):
http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bpb/24/8/24_950/_article/-char/en
Fasting increases insulin resistance:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/r3qm455884788l7u/
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3762/is_200601/ai_n17180736
Eat healthy (The Mediterian Asian Diet is a good example)and exericse, which can help "reverse" most cases of Type 2 diabetes if they are caught early. Cut out binge eating, prolonged fasting, and add fatty acids to your diet. NO processed foods of any kind. You want no preservatives, no sugars, no chemicals, no trans fats. Aim for AT LEAST 45 minutes of exercise daily, and consider a physically active job.
In general, the "cure" for *most* cases of Type 2 diabetes/insulin resistance is obviously common sense.
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Also Nick, please note that a Type 1 diabetic has a COMPLETE DEFICIENCY of insulin, not even enough to keep him alive while fasting. This is why they need a constant supply of insulin in their system to avoid coma and death.
In the 2 days you want someone to fast (presumably with no insulin), they will already in a coma and/or DEAD.
How's that for a cure? I guess technically, death IS a cure for Type 1 diabetes!
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Hi Sarah,
Here's a couple of ideas that have helped my son with his Celiac Disease and food allergies:
Specific Carbohydrate Diet for Celiac Disease
http://www.celiac.com:80/articles/21506/1/The-Specific-Carbohydrate-Diet-is-an-Excellent-Gluten-Free-Diet-Option/Page1.html
Zyme Prime digestive enzymes (SCD diet)
http://www.houstonni.com/
I hope this helps.
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Thanks Bird52, I just might give the SCD a try! I have nothing to lose, and it looks like I already eat a lot of those foods (fruits) anyway. I think it's worth a look.
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Emailed by Dr Paul R Clayton on 02 January 2008...
[Dr Paul Clayton, chairman of the Food Group at the Royal Society of Medicine; Dr Paul Clayton graduated summa cum laude in Medical Pharmacology from Edinburgh University, prior to obtaining his PhD. He is a Fellow of The Royal Society of Medicine and a former Senior Scientific Adviser to the UK government's Committee on the Safety of Medicines. He has worked with leading Doctors and clinical Scientists at centers of clinical expertise in the UK and abroad, and trained the Pharmacists in Britain' s largest chemist chain in preventative nutrition. Dr Clayton has lectured at the Royal College of General Practitioners. He frequently presents at and chairs international conferences on nutrition and health].
Here's what Dr Paul R Clayton says about the "Gracey HYPOthesis"...
"...Hi Nick,
You might want to factor in the following ...
In the paleolithic era (ie pre-agrarian culture), insulin resistance was key to the survival of our species, because if the bulk of blood sugar is derived from hepatic gluconeogenesis then you absolutely cannot afford to have this used as a fuel by muscle etc, or stored as fat, because it is essential to CNS and placental function. Our problems are strongly related to the log (at least) increase in GL of our diet that has occurred since then. During the centuries of agrarianism that we have experienced the genes for insulin resistance have been gradually lost, and we have become insulin-sensitive, thus enabling us to consume the diet we eat today: unlike the Pima Indians and Australian aborigines who did not experience agrarian transit, and who never lost the insulin resistance genes. Insulin sensitivity is, therefore, a survival mechanism that arrived during the agrarian period. Unfortunately, when faced with the current onslaught of digestible carbs and simple sugars, combined with our unprecedentedly low levels of physical activity, even insulin sensitivity is overwhelmed.
Until about the late Victorian period, when the bulk of the population was physically active, we could get away with a high GL diet because of the high functionality of our skeletal musculature at that time, and to some extent our BAT also. The real problems began to emerge post-WW2, due to the decrease in physical activity and the subsequent loss in the functionality of skeletal muscle as a glucose storage / utilization site. This is why physical exercise is so critical for Type 2's; but what happens when we fast is just as interesting: the fact that the CNS and placenta are obligate glucose users means that both fasting and (pregnancy) trigger insulin resistance, so that whatever small amounts of glucose are available go to the critical sites. It should be noted however that this is, unlike Type 2, a healthy form of insulin resistance.
All the best,
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Hi Paul & AnyOne Else,
In my opinion there is ZERO substantial distinction between healthy Glucose Insulin Resistance [GIR] eg during pregnancy and healthy Glucose Insulin Resistance [GIR] adaptively produced by the lucky type 2 Diabetics. If You have access to any evidence that suggests otherwise please cite it. Many type 1 Diabetics want a CURE even if that means a 'transitional healing process' via a type 2 diabetic status as has been apparent with Halle Berry. Becoming pregnant is one way to induce GIR and help CURE type 1 diabetes ... eating less OFTEN is another.
Your estimated '10-fold+ increase of glucose concentrated foods', as a major contributory reason, that is apparently resulting in more-and-more type 2 Diabetics [who can retain healthy beta-cell mass c/o healthy GIR] ... is reasonable.
CURING type 1 diabetes includes a healing process / journey whereby type 1 Diabetics acquire increased healthy beta-cell activity / mass and this should be helped by increased healthy Glucose Insulin Resistance by eating less OFTEN and exercising aerobically less OFTEN.
Please comment again, as to your possible change of perspective, having read the following 'CURE for type 1 diabetes' aka 'CURE for relative-HYPOglycemia' related 5 references ...
Islet cell inflammation is psycho-neuronal adaption to relative-HYPOglycemia so a type 1 Diabetic's positive mental attitude & desire for CURE may determine speed of each Individual CURE.
> 1206 www.tinyurl.com/2odurt">www.tinyurl.com/2odurt [hmdosch@sickkids.ca]
> 1206 www.tinyurl.com/y7znor [hmdosch@sickkids.ca]
Fasting reduces erythrocyte GSH / but same FSR / proving induced insulin resistance is NOT associated with inflammation so this type of GIR is most desirable for type 1 Diabetics...
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/27pwj8 [saskiananette@hotmail.com]
Post-Mortem / in-vivo / beta-cells retain function even at 30 mmol/l or 540 mg/dL [pH < 7.1] so GIR + TSG should help CURE type 1 diabetes.
> 0907 www.tinyurl.com/2vrn55 [pbutler@mednet.ucla.edu]
Less inflammation / better liver function / better gluconeogenesis helps correct relative-HYPOglycemia / heals diabetes so every type 1 should seek to improve the health of their LIVER...
> 0885 www.tinyurl.com/2bsvyk [giulio.marchesini@unibo.it]
Schizophrenia / relative-HYPOglycemia protection via HYPERglycemia so every type 1 seeking a CURE should read this paper and understand the importance of avoiding any 'relative-HYPOglycemia associated psychological distress' because that very distress could account for the psycho-neuronal adaption to relative-HYPOglycemia that is inferred by Michael Dosch's abovementioned paper [www.tinyurl.com/2odurt">www.tinyurl.com/2odurt] ...
> 0367 www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99 [Dr Allan Cott]
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In respect of ALL the opinions included within & associated with this comment ... please AnyOne ... ALSO ask your current licensed Specialist for advice, including the provision of supporting Peer reviewed references, evidencing their understanding of this important matter. Pending adoption of the "Gracey HYPOthesis" ... Particularly recommended are Dr Richard K Bernstein's & Dr Joel Furhman's treatments to minimize relative-HYPOglycemia or Dr Bernarr's CURE for diabetes.
> 0367 www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99 [Dr Allan Cott]
> www.HealSelf.org/Diabetes.html [DrBernarr@aol.com]
…Warm thanks & AdrenalinLove
Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian c/o www.DiabetesHealth.com @ WED.03.JAN.2008 @ 22:23hrs (C) "I-Fast-23hours-45minutes-EveryDay-OrMore"
"Gracey HYPOthesis" CAUSE and CURE for diabetes...
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html#comments
Eat not less but less OFTEN...
Eating too OFTEN causes & sustains all diabetes...
Eating less OFTEN is profoundly more healthy than eating less...
Diabetes is not a disease ...
... diabetes is the CURE for relative-HYPOglycemia...
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> 0108 www.tinyurl.com/39dbyo [rosenal@peds.ufl.edu ]
Fasting reduces erythrocyte GSH / but same FSR / proving induced insulin resistance is NOT associated with inflammation...
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/27pwj8 [saskiananette@hotmail.com]
> 1107 www.tinyurl.com/2u88dx [mattsonm@grc.nia.nih.gov]
> 1007 www.tinyurl.com/3aypqg [mristow@mristow.org]
> 0407 www.tinyurl.com/29kvda [zangend@hadassah.org.il ]
Islet cell inflammation is neuronal adaption to relative-HYPOglycemia...
> 1206 www.tinyurl.com/2odurt [hmdosch@sickkids.ca ]
> 1206 www.tinyurl.com/y7znor [hmdosch@sickkids.ca]
> 0205 www.tinyurl.com/2e48a7 [Suzanne_DeLaMonte_MD@Brown.edu]
> 0503 www.tinyurl.com/ys63gk [anson@jhu.edu]
> 0501 www.tinyurl.com/yqf8gj [maeda@ys7.u-shizuoka-ken.ac.jp]
> 0400 www.tinyurl.com/2j7p3t [dfadool@neuro.fsu.edu]
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DeHYDRATION (?) and/or insulin-induced relative-HYPOglycemia associated loss of consciousness (?) and/or pH < 7.1 (?) ... expands Diabetic's brain with potentially fatal 'vasogenic' swelling cerebral edema CE...
> 0100 www.tinyurl.com/ypozqv [rosenal@peds.ufl.edu]
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/12/27/5606.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/12/19/5575.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/12/03/5558.html
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/27/5541.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/02/5548.html
www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/04/11/5113.html
Post-Mortem / in-vivo / beta-cells retain function even at 30 mmol/l or 540 mg/dL [pH < 7.1]
> 0907 www.tinyurl.com/2vrn55 [pbutler@mednet.ucla.edu]
TSG healthy blood pressure...
> 0807 www.tinyurl.com/292754 [hcsalgad@fmrp.usp.br]
Douglas Kamerow, US editor of BMJ: Is everything you know wrong?...
> 0707 www.tinyurl.com/2x3t6l [dkamerow@bmj.com]
www.TheDiabetesBlog.com/2007/04/19/no-food-no-problem
www.TheDiabetesBlog.com/2007/04/03/the-honeymoon-period
Somogyi's relative-HYPOglycemia induced HYPERglycemia warrants substantial research...
> 0198 www.tinyurl.com/yr27rt [okh@hst.aau.dk]
Morphine-induced relative-HYPOglycemia / Insulin-independent / alpha-2 adrenergic pathway...
> 0591 www.tinyurl.com/2kv38t [wdewey@vcu.edu]
Saline / HydroMorphine-induced relative-HYPOglycemia lethal effects increased by fasting...
> 0690 www.tinyurl.com/39vn7k [wdewey@vcu.edu]
Morphine-induced relative-HYPOglycemia action via glycogenolysis draining liver glycogen stores...
> 0689 www.tinyurl.com/yqctpw [wdewey@vcu.edu]
Morphine-induced relative-HYPOglycemia 'bell-shaped' action via spinal nerve pathway...
> 0488 www.tinyurl.com/yub9ll [wdewey@vcu.edu]
Morphine-induced relative-HYPOglycemia protection via Glucose & Fructose [+]...
> 0887 www.tinyurl.com/yun7lb [wdewey@vcu.edu]
Morphine-induced relative-HYPOglycemia protection via HYPERglycemia...
Less inflammation / better liver function / better gluconeogenesis helps correct relative-HYPOglycemia / heals diabetes...
> 0885 www.tinyurl.com/2bsvyk [giulio.marchesini@unibo.it]
> 0881 www.tinyurl.com/2jbaqp [wdewey@vcu.edu]
www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrathecal
Schizophrenia / relative-HYPOglycemia protection via HYPERglycemia...
> 0367 www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99 [Dr Allan Cott]
> 1135 www.tinyurl.com/2v8pyq [ feedback@apinchofhealth.com]
www.tinyurl.com/3au3a5 [LoveDiabetes.com]
www.tinyurl.com/2v9ajm [www.LoveDiabetes.com]
www.tinyurl.com/yrr5kd [LoveDiabetes.com]
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2vp4e9 [DrBernarr@aol.com]
> www.HealSelf.org [DrBernarr@aol.com]
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The "Gracey HYPOthesis" for the CAUSE and CURE of diabetes...
CURE... www.tinyurl.com/2guhfd
Eat not less but less OFTEN...
Eating too OFTEN causes & sustains all diabetes...
Eating less OFTEN is profoundly more healthy than eating less...
CAUSE... www.tinyurl.com/32z33w
Diabetes is not a disease ...
... diabetes is the CURE for relative-HYPOglycemia...
http://www.DiabetesHealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html#comments
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Nick, you are STILL confused. A TYPE 1 DAIBETIC CANNOT TURN INTO A TYPE 2. THEY ARE DIFFERENT DISESASES. THAT IS LIKE SOMEONE WITH CANCER TURNING INTO SOMEONE WITH ARTRITIS.
HALLLE BERRY DOES NOT HAVE AUTOIMMUNE TYPE 1 DIABETES. SHE HAS A RARE FORM OF "TYPE 1" CALLED TYPE 1B, IT IS FOUND IN BLACK PEOPLE, WHO DO NOT (USUALLY) GET TYPE 1 DIABETES. AUTOIMMUNE TYPE 1 DIABETES IS A WHITE PERSON'S DISEASE.
OR, SHE HAS A GENETIC FORM OF TYPE 2 LIKE MODY, SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE DO NOT ALAWAYS NEED INSULIN.
YOUR THEORY AND UNDERSTANDING OF TYPE 1 DIABETES SUCKS.
WHY CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE WRONG?
DID YOU NOTE THAT "DR. CLAYTON" ONLY USED THE TERM "TYPE 2" IN HIS REPLY? THAT IS BECAUSE YOU THEORY IS USELESS FOR TYPE 1 DIABETICS.
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Actually, late pregnancy induces insulin resistance which makes Type 1 diabetes WORSE. In fact, my mother was in the hospital the whole time she was pregnant with me.
In EARLY pregnancy, the HORMONES produced seem to induce immune tolerance (reduce autoimmunity) AND facilitate beta cell regeneration to an extent. THIS is what causes low blood sugars in Type 1 diabetics in early pregnancy, NOT insulin resistance.
Also, many Type 1 diabetics get pregnant. Not one has been actually "cured" because of it. Why would you think this? It's the hormones, not your theory that explains this. The "hormone" theory has ALREADY been proven.
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As for the Sick Kids discovery (i.e. Substance P), it only makes sense to think that any mild insulin resistance is a result of the autoimmuity and affected/damaged neural pathways, NOT the actual trigger for the disease itself. It is a side effect, not the cause. Inflammation is a common respone to injury.
Yes, the ASA study failed to prove this in your opinion, but that may be because incorrect dosing was used. You can't cure an infection with only one dose of antibiotics.
The thing is, even if beta cells can regnerate, we do not know what is causing the attack on the beta cells. They will be attacked, again and again.
There is no solid evidence to say that "insulin resistance" is the trigger for Type 1 diabetes. And why would that occur in babies? How do you explain that most Type 1 diabetics do not have any markers of insulin resistance, unless they follow a poor diet, inject large amounts of insulin, or are overweight? Almost all Type 1's are thin at diagnosis and do not have known markers of insulin resistance.
Nick, if you can "cure" me, I will personally pay you $10,000, and we can publish an article together. You'll be famous. Show me what you've got. Tell me how to "cure" my autoimmunity (I also have Celiac and Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, which I also want cured). Seriously, tell me how to "cure" myself with your own personal method. Not some BS lines like "drink more water" or "eat less". That doesn't work, obviously, considering this is what millions of Type 1 diabetics already do. Tell me what your REAL cure is. How can I cure my autoimmunity? I'd actually rather cure my thyroid condition over diabetes. It's hell...my levels swing all the time. Cure me Nick. Let's see what you've got. I'll help you prove or disprove your "hypothesis". Post what I should be doing *in your own words*.
Please also read my posts to know what I am already doing.
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Posted by Nicholas Dynes Gracey on 4 January 2008
http://www.diabeteshealth.com/read/2007/11/29/5564.html#comments
Emailed by Professor Joel M. Kauffman (Emeritus) on 02 January 2008...
[Professor Kauffman, PhD, Organic Chemistry, MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology), USA]
Here's what Professor Joel Kauffman says about the "Gracey HYPOthesis"...
"...Dear Nick:
Very reasonable hypothesis, and the best brief one I have ever seen.
Just remember that fat has a GI of naught, and protein is low; only carb can be very high.
In his Natural Health & Weight Loss, Barry Groves, PhD, has on p164 a table of glucose and insulin responses to various foods. Wish you could borrow and look. It is beyond glycemic index.
Happy New Year, --Joel..."
Hi Joel & AnyOne else,
Most appreciated. Have ordered Barry Groves book via www.Amazon.co.uk. One of my main concerns with the glycemic index is that it appears to promote 'weight loss' by encouraging People to ... eat more OFTEN ... and one of the main symptoms of many diseases is 'eating too OFTEN' associated 'weight loss' [often including 'inflammation'], rather than "weight control" ... IE most diseases, including aging, include a lack of capability to 'body-build' healthy body tissue EG muscle, brown fat and in type 1a Diabetics ... pancreatic beta-cells. It is extraordinary why so few Diabetics choose anabolic exercising over catabolic exercising...
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcopenia
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catabolic
> www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabolic
> 1207 www.tinyurl.com/2gvceo [Dr Bernarr]
It is also extraordinary that so many Diabetics quickly understand the benefits of resisting CARBOphilia without understanding that their choice of low CARBOholism foods is a form of 'glucose insulin resistance' [GIR] "MIMETICS". Imagine a crowd of 15 / 15,000 low CARBOphilia Diabetics, One after another saying EG ... "NO", "NO" & "NO" & resisting 1000's of CARBOholism snacks raining down upon Them at a big sporting event. How quickly should those low CARBOphilia Diabetics understand the benefit of their 15 / 15,000 low CARBOholism insulin receptors on the surface of their muscle / fat / LIVER cells saying "NO", "NO" and "NO" to cellular glucose entry and "YEAH", "YEAH" & "YEAHS" to 'glucose insulin resistance' [GIR]. All low CARBOholism Diabetics should seek to increase their GIR as part of their healing process ... ASAP...
Wait ... OLD paradigm ... Why is Human body resisting CARBOholism foods?
0195 > www.tinyurl.com/2lb5om [jolefsky@ucsd.edu]
Wait ... NEW paradigm ... CARBOphilia is sexy but it is NOT ... LOVE ... NO a CARBOholism snack is sexy ... but it is NOT ... LOVE ...
0103 > www.tinyurl.com/2lu3fs [MAPS]
Wait ... before eating too OFTEN ... wait ... because "eating less OFTEN" is 'GIR mimetics' and your body loves You more when You choose to LOVE & respect your own body wisdom...
0104 > www.tinyurl.com/3cyhao [MAPS]
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Now ... SEE what the NEW research [c/o Michael Ristow's breakthrough OCT.2007 publications] has found ... GIR ['glucose insulin resistance'] is good because GIR promotes mitochondrial metabolism, causing increased ROS formation and cumulating in hormetic extension of life span, raising NEW questions as to FINDing NEW treatments which seek to help increase GIR, health & life span of all Diabetics ... ASAP...
1007 > www.tinyurl.com/3aypqg [mristow@mristow.org]
pH
In so far as Barry Groves low CARBOholism food-guidance helps prevent Diabetic ketoacidosis [pH < 7.1] it should be most interesting. The main factors in helping CURE diabetes whilst preventing Diabetic ketoacidosis [pH < 7.1] are ... plenty of clean water drinking / naso gastric 'drinking' together with daily pH testing [EG via www.DrClarkStore.co.uk]. It is extraordinarily extraordinary how few Diabetics check their pH once daily, or more.
Regular pH testing appears to be one of the key safety methods in helping convert type 1 Diabetics into type 2 Diabetics. Whether Halle Berry was a type 1a Diabetic or a type 1b Diabetic ... the fact remains that Her type 1 to type 2 Diabetic upgrade-direction of 'healing conversion' is healthier for beta-cell mass / activity than any type 2 to type 1 downgrade conversion or even a type 1b to type 1a downgrade conversion...
Diabetic upgrade type 1 to type 2...
> 1107 www.tinyurl.com/ywa9t4 [Halle Berry @ DiabetesHealth.com]
Diabetic downgrade type 2 to type 1...
> 0807 www.tinyurl.com/yp8r6q [kenjit@kchnet.or.jp]
Diabetic downgrade type 1b to type 1a...
> 0407 www.TheDiabetesBlog.com/2007/04/03/the-honeymoon-period
> 0802 www.tinyurl.com/2qxuzh [Fortunato.Lombardo@unime.it]
> 1004 www.tinyurl.com/34wnw5 [agazmysl@poczta.onet.pl]
It's time for type 1a Diabetics to upgrade...
> 1206 www.tinyurl.com/2odurt [hmdosch@sickkids.ca]
> 1206 www.tinyurl.com/y7znor [hmdosch@sickkids.ca]
In respect of ALL the opinions included within & associated with this comment ... please AnyOne ... ALSO ask your current licensed Specialist for advice, including the provision of supporting Peer reviewed references, evidencing their understanding of this important matter. Pending adoption of the paradigm shift proposed by the "Gracey HYPOthesis" ... particularly recommended are Dr Richard K Bernstein's & Dr Joel Furhman's treatments to help minimize relative-HYPOglycemia or Dr Bernarr's CURE for type 1a diabetes.
> 0367 www.tinyurl.com/2uxb99 [Dr Allan Cott]
> www.HealSelf.org/Diabetes.html [DrBernarr@aol.com]
…Warm thanks & AdrenalinLove
Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian c/o www.LoveDiabetes.com @ FRI.04.JAN.2008 @ 20:50hrs (C) "I-Fast-23hours-45minutes-EveryDay-OrMore"
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The "Gracey HYPOthesis" for the CAUSE and CURE of diabetes...
CURE ... autoimmunity... www.tinyurl.com/3cw8eu
CURE ... diabetes... www.tinyurl.com/2guhfd
Eat not less but less OFTEN...
Eating too OFTEN causes & sustains all diabetes...
Eating less OFTEN is profoundly more healthy than eating less...
CAUSE... www.tinyurl.com/32z33w
Diabetes is not a disease ...
... diabetes is the CURE for relative-HYPOglycemia...
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TEA mimics INSULIN ... SUP / SIP your way to HYPO-GLYCEMIA ?
Aging Cell. 2008 Jan;7(1):69-77. Epub 2007 Dec 19.
Black tea polyphenols ... MIMIC ... insulin / insulin-like growth factor-1 signalling to the longevity factor FOXO1a.
Cameron AR, Anton S, Melville L, Houston NP, Dayal S, McDougall GJ, Stewart D, Rena G.
Neuro-sciences Institute, Ninewells Hospital and Medical School, University of Dundee, Dundee, Scotland.
> 0208 www.tinyurl.com/2naw2z {G.Rena@Dundee.ac.uk ~ IMPORTANCE of hepatic GLUCO-NEOGENESIS}
In vertebrates and invertebrates, relationships between diet and health are controlled by a conserved signalling pathway responsive to insulin-like ligands.
In invertebrate models for example, forkhead transcription factor family O (FOXO) transcription factors in this pathway regulate the rate of aging in response to dietary cues, and in vertebrates, ... age-induced deficits in the same pathway are thought to contribute to DYS-REGULATION of hepatic GLUCO-NEOGENESIS through genes such as phosphoenolpyruvate carboxykinase (PEPCK).
Recently = SCREENING for dietary constituents capable of regulating this pathway in A cell culture model.
3 black TEA 'theaflavins' ... theaflavin 3-O-gallate ... theaflavin 3'-O-gallate ... theaflavin 3,3'di-O-gallate and ... thearubigins ARE novel mimics of INSULIN and/or IGF-1 action on mammalian FOXO1a, PEPCK and moreover THERE IS EVIDENCE that the effects on this pathway of the green tea constituent (-)-epigallocatechin gallate depend on its ability to be converted into these larger structures.
With the exception of WATer, tea is the most popular drink globally, but despite this, little is known about the biological availability of black tea polyphenols in vivo or the molecular target(s) mediating the effects OF A ... HYPO-GLYCEMIA / HYPER-GLYCEMIA 'INSULIN-TEA' INDUCED 'ROLLER-COASTER'.
Further investigation in these two areas might provide insight into how HYPO-GLYCEMIA RELATED metabolic disease may be deferred.
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…Warm thanks & Adrenalin Love
Nick Gracey, BSc(Hons) Medical Biochemistry, Birmingham University, UK, WATerian (C) TUE.04.MAR.2008 @ 22:32hrs c/o www.LoveDiabetes.cOM & www.HYPO-thesis.cOM
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AdrenaLINE... www.1MealPerDay.cOM ... "Lovingly-I-Fast-Every-23hrs-45mins-OrMore"
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